Generally I advocate the approach that one should write the configuration as they write any API. i.e. POJOs with getters/setters. Its the job of the container to then take a configuration and map it to these pojos. I haven't had time to come up with a more concrete proposal and advocate this for the Managed* classes quite yet though. :-)

David Primmer wrote:
To re-use the the framework in our server environment, we just need an
interface to be able to pull config for a component and an entry point
to start it all off. Doesn't matter what the format or mechanism is.

davep

On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 3:29 PM, David Calavera
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I agree, I think currently there are better solutions than properties files.
 The Spring 2.5 annotation configure stuff could be a good example.

 On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 11:44 PM, Dan Diephouse <


[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

 > I agree with your conclusions - I think the current version is a little
 > simplistic. I haven't looked into it much, but I know its on one of my two
 > top priority issues for 1.0. Properties files are rarely the way people want
 > to configure stuff.
 >
 >
 > David Primmer wrote:
 >
 > > Thanks Dan. It turns out we were being brain-dead and we should've
 > > just used AbderaServlet directly and send in a couple init params like
 > > you have in your web.xml.
 > >
 > > The main question i have now is how to use all the new Managed
 > > classes. This is one area where info on how to wire them up will help
 > > newbies like me. Some example properties files especially. I couldn't
 > > find any in the src. Also, custom routing is the main issue with the
 > > ManagedProvider. I'm using a custom provider just for the routing (and
 > > since I don't have time to figure out how to write the properties
 > > files for the ManagedProvider). Since routing is usually the first
 > > place you'd move away from the boilerplate, I'd say it would help to
 > > have clear points to factor out the routing info into a class that can
 > > be loaded as a property for the managed provider. ManagedRouteManager
 > > may also work.
 > >
 > > davep
 > >
 > > On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 4:46 AM, Dan Diephouse
 > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
 > >
 > >
 > > > We need to make sure this is documented and fix the tutorial. One
 > > > shouldn't
 > > > have to extend the servlet to get Abdera working. I guess its a
 > > > question of
 > > > what is best practice... Is it best practice to extend
 > > > DefaultProvider, add
 > > > your adapters and then supply the init-param for your provider? The
 > > > problem
 > > > I have with this approach is that it seems a little overly simplistic
 > > > as you
 > > > still need to get access to your backend somehow (the pre-built
 > > > adapters are
 > > > another story).
 > > >
 > > >  Dan
 > > >
 > > >
 > > >
 > > >  David Primmer wrote:
 > > >
 > > >
 > > >
 > > > > vasu and i figured it out.
 > > > >
 > > > > I put the init params into the web.xml:
 > > > >
 > > > >   <init-param>
 > > > >
 > > > > <param-name>org.apache.abdera.protocol.server.Provider</param-name>
 > > > >
 > > > > <param-value>org.apache.abdera.example.CustomProvider</param-value>
 > > > >   </init-param>
 > > > >
 > > > > then i get them from the config and have the manager create the
 > > > > providor:
 > > > >
 > > > >  @Override
 > > > >  protected Provider createProvider() {
 > > > >   return manager.newProvider(getProperties(getServletConfig()));
 > > > >  }
 > > > >
 > > > > if you leave the init params out, you create a DefaultProvider
 > > > > instead
 > > > > of your CustomProvider
 > > > >
 > > > > davep
 > > > >
 > > > > On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 2:04 PM, David Primmer <
 > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]>
 > > > >
 > > > >
 > > > wrote:
 > > >
 > > >
 > > > >
 > > > >
 > > > > > I'm doing server setup that I thought should be better documented.
 > > > > >  Basically, I'd like to make the CustomProvider example work with
 > > > > > a
 > > > > >  web.xml based setup. I see some info on it on the wiki but the
 > > > > > example
 > > > > >  itself uses java code to compose the app and to start jetty.
 > > > > >
 > > > > >  So I made a CustomSampleServlet that extends AbderaServlet and
 > > > > > re-uses
 > > > > >  the other two files from the custom example.
 > > > > >
 > > > > >  This is what it does:
 > > > > >
 > > > > >  public class CustomSampleServlet extends AbderaServlet {
 > > > > >
 > > > > >  private final static Log log =
 > > > > > LogFactory.getLog(AbderaServlet.class);
 > > > > >
 > > > > >  @Override
 > > > > >  protected Provider createProvider() {
 > > > > >   return new CustomProvider();
 > > > > >  }
 > > > > >
 > > > > >  @Override
 > > > > >  public void init() {
 > > > > >   log.debug("Initialing Abdera Servlet");
 > > > > >   manager = createServiceManager();
 > > > > >   provider = createProvider();
 > > > > >   log.debug("Using provider - " + provider);
 > > > > >  }
 > > > > >
 > > > > >  }
 > > > > >
 > > > > >
 > > > > >  Then in my web.xml I have what is at the bottom of this page:
 > > > > >
 > > > > >
 > > > > >
 > > > >
 > > > 
http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/ABDERA/Your+first+AtomPub+Server
 > > >
 > > >
 > > > >  line 179 of ServletRequestContext does:
 > > > > >  Abdera abdera = provider.getAbdera();
 > > > > >
 > > > > >  but returns null. This doesn't seem right. Next thing i know, i
 > > > > > have a
 > > > > >  null pointer exception on ServletRequestContext.getHost. Can
 > > > > > someone
 > > > > >  help with the provider bootstrap code?
 > > > > >
 > > > > >  Does this have something to do with leaving out this sort of
 > > > > > thing?:
 > > > > >  servletHolder.setInitParameter(ServiceManager.PROVIDER,
 > > > > >  CustomProvider.class.getName());
 > > > > >
 > > > > >  thanks.
 > > > > >
 > > > > >  davep
 > > > > >
 > > > > >
 > > > > >
 > > > > >
 > > > > >
 > > > >  --
 > > >  Dan Diephouse
 > > >  MuleSource
 > > >  http://mulesource.com | http://netzooid.com
 > > >
 > > >
 > > >
 > >
 >
 > --
 > Dan Diephouse
 > MuleSource
 > http://mulesource.com | http://netzooid.com
 >



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