Hi,

Could you please remove me from the list?  Thanks!

Alec McClennan
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On Sun, Jan 29, 2017 at 10:27 PM, wincowg...@centurylink.net <
wincowg...@centurylink.net> wrote:

> Apple Croppers- Jon and I do try to keep a pretty hands off approach with
> regard to moderating this list.
>
> We have only had to remove one person from the list in 24 years.
>
> That being said, if you don't agree with someones post, there is the
> delete key. There is never a reason to get personal with another subscriber
> on our list.
>
> I know many on this list may not always agree, but that is not unusual. We
> still share information.
>
> Certainly most of you that know Jon Clements and I, know we often do not
> see eye to eye, but we do many great things together in spite of that :-)
>
> This apple-crop list lasting 24 years is a tribute to that.
>
> If someone has a real beef with a post or a person, please share you
> comment with Jon and I privately, as owners of the list. Otherwise hit
> delete, we do not want to be moderators.
>
> Best,
>
> Win
>
>
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> On Jan 29, 2017, at 5:30 PM, Jon Clements <jon.cleme...@umass.edu> wrote:
>
> Yea, we try to be pretty hands-off with apple-crop, and I have gotten a
> little lost in the thread this afternoon, but please let's not let this get
> out of hand. Last thing I want to be is a moderator...
>
> Thanks.
>
> Jon
>
> On Sun, Jan 29, 2017 at 4:42 PM, Vincent Philion <
> vincent.phil...@irda.qc.ca> wrote:
>
>> You are missing the point. There is plenty of room for expressing your
>> political and religious views in other forums.
>>
>> http://virtualorchard.net/applecrop.html
>>
>> “Discussion relating to all aspects of apple production from cultivar
>> selection, tree growth and performance, rootstock development and testing
>> to the development of sustainable production systems is welcome.”
>>
>> Vincent Philion, agr. M.Sc. IRDA.
>>
>> “an environment that once again values and rewards the entrepreneur”.
>> Hopefully, there is room for the “environment” in your environment!
>>
>>
>> Le 29 janv. 2017 à 16:28, Kurt W. Alstede <k...@alstedefarms.com> a
>> écrit :
>>
>> Hello Fellow Horticulturalists and Farmers,
>>
>> I debated whether I should opine or not…there seems to be so little
>> tolerance these days for alternative view points.  Yet, to suggest that
>> politics don’t influence our businesses and farms would be not only a
>> mistake but also a disservice to our goal of helping and supporting one
>> another who grow apples.  What I can share with you with confidence as a
>> full time family farm owner in New Jersey is that farming under the Obama
>> administration was more difficult, more costly, and much more challenging
>> than any other time in my 35 years of farming.  I have seen a steady
>> increase in the direct costs associated with regulatory compliance as well
>> as the amount of management time that I and my team spend simply making
>> sure that our business can operate….none of which helps us grow a better
>> apple for our customers.  We are only 10 days into the new administration
>> and I can tell you that I look forward to the opportunity to advance our
>> family business to the next generation in an environment that once again
>> values and rewards the entrepreneur, hard work, rural values, and the risk
>> that we all take each year as farmers.   I also look forward to a positive
>> business environment that will allow us to expand our farm, purchase and
>> preserve more farmland, employ more people, and stimulate the local economy.
>>
>> Simply stated….I am very excited!
>>
>> Best wishes for a successful growing season and may God Bless the United
>> States of America.
>>
>>
>> *Kurt W. Alstede*
>> General Manager,
>> Alstede Farms, LLC
>> P.O. Box 278
>> 1 Alstede Farms Lane,
>> Chester, New Jersey 07930
>> United States of America
>>
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>> www.alstedefarms.com
>>
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>>
>> *From:* apple-crop [mailto:apple-crop-boun...@virtualorchard.com
>> <apple-crop-boun...@virtualorchard.com>] *On Behalf Of *Vincent Philion
>> *Sent:* Sunday, January 29, 2017 4:14 PM
>> *To:* Apple-Crop discussion list
>> *Subject:* Re: [Apple-Crop] Future of Extension Assistance to Apple Crop
>>
>> Please keep "alternative facts" and politics out of this thread.
>>
>> Vincent Philion, agr., M.Sc.
>>
>>
>> Le 29 janv. 2017 à 16:06, Hugh Thomas <hughthoma...@gmail.com> a écrit :
>>
>> The intended effect was to promote the idea that the right wing extremist
>> Donald Trump was trying to suppress opposition voices. Contrast this to the
>> fact that for years the fascist left has threatened any scientist that
>> questions global warming. The death penalty has been called for many times.
>> By the way, the idea:  “97% of scientists agree…” is just more fake news.
>>
>> On Sun, Jan 29, 2017 at 11:04 AM, Daniel Cooley <dcoo...@umass.edu>
>> wrote:
>> Since journalists are among the most dishonest human beings on earth, we
>> probably should all just stop paying attention to the news, and let the new
>> administration get on with the important business of making America great
>> again. No offense Con, but America first!
>>
>> But if you’re not inclined to stop paying attention, it turns out the
>> USDA kerfuffle came about from an internal decision, not the White House.
>> It strikes me as typical of ARS culture.
>>
>> http://www.sciencemag.org/news/2017/01/firestorm-over-suppos
>> ed-gag-order-agricultural-scientists-was-self-inflicted-wound
>>
>>
>> Dan
>>
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