Hi Bill, the Morren's Jonagored Supra on B.9 were grown at the UMass Cold
Spring Orchard in Belchertown, MA in a super-spindle system. Unfortunately,
we lost these trees to a freak October snowstorm (in 2011?) when the
support system failed. I don't see their chilling requirements being any
different than any other Jonagold, whatever that is?

Here's a few picts from way back on what the trees and fruit looked like,
and the trees demise, if you are interested.

http://fruit.umext.umass.edu/picts/morrensjonagold051205bloom.jpg

http://fruit.umext.umass.edu/picts/morrensjonagold092605trees.jpg (not
exactly a heavy set)

http://fruit.umext.umass.edu/picts/morrensjonagold092605fruit.jpg

http://fruit.umext.umass.edu/picts/jonagolddownsnow.jpg

http://fruit.umext.umass.edu/picts/jonagolddown2011.jpg

On Sun, Jan 10, 2016 at 8:18 PM, Shoemaker, William H <wshoe...@illinois.edu
> wrote:

> What region did you observe the Morren's Jonagored Supra on B9 Jon? Can
> you say something about chilling requirement for that cultivar? I think
> Jonagold is an excellent apple for fresh eating. If the New England Apple
> Association wants to brand it, I think they are making a good choice.
>
> Bill
>
> *William H. Shoemaker *
>
> *Retired fruit and vegetable horticulturist*
>
> *University of Illinois*
>
> wshoe...@illinois.edu
> ------------------------------
> *From:* apple-crop-boun...@virtualorchard.net [
> apple-crop-boun...@virtualorchard.net] on behalf of Jon Clements [
> jon.cleme...@umass.edu]
> *Sent:* Sunday, January 10, 2016 4:56 PM
> *To:* Apple-crop discussion list
> *Subject:* Re: [apple-crop] apple size
>
> Root pruning: YES
> Withhold nitrogen: YES
> Minimize dormant pruning, do some summer pruning (but don't remove fruit):
> YES
> Use Apogee: YES
> Over-crop: YES maybe, but use NAA and/or Ethrel to promote return bloom
> development
> Use B.9 rootstock (as opposed to M.9): YES
> Make sure you have enough variety to pollinate: YES
>
> I found Morren's Jonagored Supra (Willow Drive) grown on B.9 rootstock to
> be a very nice Jonagold strain. Good crops without too many large fruit.
> Still have to watch biennial bearing. I would plant that strain in a
> heartbeat if I want Jonagold.
>
> Did you hear New England Apple Association is going to brand Jonagold
> apples grown in New England? Not sure, however, what they are calling it?
>
> Any other ideas out there?
>
> Jon
>
> On Sat, Jan 9, 2016 at 10:18 PM, Hugh Thomas <hughthoma...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> I've always wondered about root pruning with a deep running and large
>> disk. Just a thought...
>>
>> On Sat, Jan 9, 2016 at 11:48 AM, David Kollas <kol...@frontier.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>         Art:
>>>
>>>                 I don’t know whence the observations or measurements
>>> have come, but I saw a rootstock comparison
>>>         in which G202 was said to produce “smaller fruit size.”   For
>>> the reason you mention, I hope this is true, and of
>>>         more than just statistical significance.  I suspect that if it
>>> were a practical difference, we would have heard more
>>>         about it.
>>>
>>>         David Kollas
>>>         Kollas Orchard, Connecticut
>>>
>>>
>>> On Jan 9, 2016, at 12:01 PM, Arthur Kelly <kellyorcha...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> > Any suggestions out there for how to reduce fruit size without getting
>>> into biennial bearing as in not thinning?  Some varieties (Jonagold) would
>>> be more marketable if they were 2.75 - 3.0" instead of all more than 3.0".
>>> >
>>> > --
>>> > Art Kelly
>>> > Kelly Orchards
>>> > Acton, ME
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> --
> Jon Clements
> aka 'Mr Honeycrisp'
> UMass Cold Spring Orchard
> 393 Sabin St.
> Belchertown, MA  01007
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UMass Cold Spring Orchard
393 Sabin St.
Belchertown, MA  01007
413-478-7219
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