On Fri, 25 Jan 2013 10:22:23 -0600, Dennis Gilmore <den...@ausil.us> wrote:
Hi all,

I wanted to kick off a discussion, I think that with the work that
Seneca is doing for armv6hl to support the Raspberry Pi most of the
need for building sfp has gone away. I would like us to drop support
for sfp in F19 that means that anyone running a kirkwood based system
would get supported software updates for approximately 13 months from
now. with cubie boards and other devices coming around that are cheap
and more powerful and similar options I think there is little benefit
to continuing to support sfp.

Ive put in a request to get numbers of people using the arm and armhfp
portions of mirrormanager to get some idea of the number of users out
there, though i suspect most arm are raspberry pi and people building
in mock.

I am inclined to agree.

At the same time, however, this poses a few related questions?

With essentially dropping armv5tel, does it make sense to replace
it with what is very obviously going to be an arch with extremely
short-lived support-worthyness? Or would it be better to just drop
everything less than armv7hl and be done with it, and free up all
the resources for focusing on the primary target?

The focus question is particularly important considering that in
the near future there will also be the 64-bit ARM arch to support.

Or to put it another way - if armv5tel is drop-worthy, does
what is essentially one device (the Pi) warrant the maintenance
of an arch all by itself? If the answer to this is close to
yes, then what about dropping armv7hl in favour of armv6hl as
the only supported 32-bit ARM arch?

What is the performance gap, hardware being equal, between:

armv5tel -> armv6hl
armv6hl -> armv7hl

The answer to that question seems like it ought to factor
into any decision made.

Do any of the long standing issues of armv5tel (atomics?) go
away when using armv6hl?

Gordan
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