In a message dated 6/17/03 11:05:51 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

>On Tue, Jun 17, 2003 at 07:41:45PM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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>> Socialism developed in the early and mid-19th century as a rejection
>of
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>> classical liberalism,
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>Wrong. You seem to confuse the concept of socialism with the word socialism.
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>Just like classical liberalism can be traced back to chinese taoists or
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>to greek stoicists, socialism can be traced back to chinese legists or
>greek
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>platonists. Plato's much praised "The Republic" is your typical
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>national-socialist utopia.

Wrong. You seem to confuse the concept of subordinating the individual to a 
greater human collective to subordinating the individual to the will of the 
tyrant.  Plato's Republic represents not any typcal national socialist republic, 
but rather the delusion of the intellectual that he can rule as an enlightened 
dictator.  France today with its virulent anti-American nationalism, 
socialized agriculture and Big Business, and government bureau of linguistic purity 
(all in the name of "protecting France and French culture from foreign 
influences) represents the typical national-socialist republic.

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