J. Kalita
Thu, 17 Mar 2005 14:21:16 -0800
Alpona baideu, apuni okoman sesta korok amak koboloi, ki bhitorua, swobhabgoto karon ase. ei karonbor amar gat besikoi ase neki? kar logot tulona korile besikoi aru kar logot tulona korile komkoi ase? jodi apuni apunar kotha manuhe xuni sinta-sorsa kora bisare, tenehole gorihona diya bhaxare, mo-bhal-manuh-baki-sob-beya monoobhabere, nilikhibo. Jugal > > Those are good but 'baahira kaaron'. But why are these 'baahira bostu-e` > aamaar uthi oha saam-ok probhawambito koribo paarise'? Nijor driho > monobhav thaakile maanuhor bybohaar kune-o poribortito koribo nuware`. > It will be good if we could also find the intrinsic reason/s for the > people/youths accepting and behaving that way. > > > >From: "J. Kalita" >>To: "Alpana B. Sarangapani" >>CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], >> assam@pikespeak.uccs.edu >>Subject: Re: Re: [Assam] Language & Inferiotity Complex-Article by M. >> S. Thirumalai >>Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 10:18:57 -0700 (MST) >> >>Bohutoo karon ase. Keitaman: >> >>1) Hindi Bharot sorkaror bhaxa. Kendriyo sorkaror sakori korile >>Hindi janibo lage. Moor dadai NEEPCO-t kam kore. Koise uporor officer >> boor >>xadharonote Hindi koowa manuh. Hindi nokole, office-ot ba bahirot, >>sakorit, promotion-ot digdari hoy. >> >>Akou ei Decemberot ghoroloi jaa~ote moi moor enjon NEDFi-t kam kora >> bondhuk >>phone korisiloo~ keibarman office-ot. Phone dhora manuhe kewol Hindi >>(aru ketiyaba Ingraji) koy. Oxomiyat kotha kole uttor nidiye. >> >>2) Hindi koowa manuh, Bihar UP-adir, Oxomot bohutoo. Ei manuhsame >>Oxomiya nokoy, ba sestao nokore. Karon Hindi "Bharotor bhaxa", xololoowe >>janibo lage teo~lookor mote. Ei Decemborot ghoroloi jaao~te moi ebar >>eta number-ot bhulote call korisiloo~. 1)-r dore xei manuhjoneo Oxomiya >>nokoy, kewol Hindithe kotha koy "Hindi-me boliye!". Moi gali porathe >>Oxomiya koboloi sesta kore. >> >>3) Central school-e bhorti hoi porise Oxomot. Central School bilak >>"glorified" Hindi medium school. Oxomiya bixoyoo nai ei school bilakot. >> >>4) Oxomot bate ghate military-ye bhorti check point ityadit. Xiho~te >> Hindir >>bahire onyo bhaxa nokoy. >> >>5) Cable TV-t koonoo regulation nai. Cable TV operator-e jihoke pai take >>dekhuwai. Koonoo dexote eitoo niyom nai. Local content buli ekoo nai. >>Hindi TV (1950 manor) pora Bharot sorkaror kooti kooti toka khorosot >>gorhi uthil 1990+ manoloi. Bharot sorkare bheti bonai dile. Amar >>Oxomiya TV-r bheti ghathiboloi etiya Bharot ba Oxom sorkaor toka nai. >>Bheti nogothakoi etiya "compete" koribo lagibo. >> >>6) Bharot sorkaror policy-r karone Arunachal Pradeshat L.P. schoolor pora >>arombho kori xokoloo srenite Hindir pradurbhab. Manipur/Nagaland/Meghalay >>aditoo tenei. >> >>7) Oxomiya manuhor onyo bhaxa koowar obhyax asei. Gotike xubidha pale >>nijortu eri onyotoohe loi, xeituwoo karon. >> >>If anyone else wants to add to this list, one is welcome. >> >>I am fairly busy today, but I will try to write some remedies as I see >> them. >> >>My request, please try to provide your responses, at least partially in >>Assamese. Let's show that we don't lack in self-respect for the Assamese >>language. If Assamese cannot find expression in two of the world's newest >>media: TV and Internet, it's going to be doomed. Let's start the culture >>of writing Assamese (of course, as the second language) on the Internet. >>Let's prove that Assamese has its place on the Internet, in some form or >>other, in a major way. We can show the way to the others by doing so >> right >>here. >> >>Jugal >> >> >> > >> > Very well said and understood that there is a problem that Assam might >> be >> > facing from the Hindi culture. >> > Now would one of you (you and C'da) be kind enough to tell us why is >> this >> > happening? Is it lack of love and pride for our own language, >> inferiority >> > complex, insecurity, glamor, force, good marketing style? what?? >> > And, what is the solution to it? Censor? Go to everyone's home and >> shut >> > off their tv if they are not watching an Assamese movie/program, or >> > produce classy Assamese movies with good storylines, acting, color >> > production that do not follow the style of the hindi movies - running >> > around the bushes or girls dancing in a club with those mini, mini >> skirts >> > and men holding poms and dancing, or wearing a bright pink suit? >> > In short, the causes and the solution please! >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >From: "J. Kalita" >> >>To: "Chan Mahanta" >> >>CC: assam@pikespeak.uccs.edu >> >>Subject: Re: [Assam] Language & Inferiotity Complex-Article by >> M. S. >> >> Thirumalai >> >>Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 21:52:41 -0700 (MST) >> >> >> >>Chandan-dai koowa kothakhini gurutwopurno. Xeituwei dhurup xotyo. >> >> >> >>Oxomiya bhaxar bipod dui-ejone Ingraji koowar pora oha nai. Oxomiya >> >> bhaxar >> >>dan~or bipod hol Hindi bhaxa. Oxomiya manuhe Ingraji koi native >> English >> >>speaker hobo nooware hazar bosor goleo. Kintu, Oxomiya manuhe, Oxomiya >> >>lora suwaliye Hindi TV sai sai, Hindi cinema sai sai, Hindi schoolot >> >>porhi, Hindi koowa thailoi furiboli goi, keibosor manote >> >>xolxoliyakoi Hindi kobo pare native Hindi speaker-or nisinakoi. >> >> >> >>Ingraji nijor bhaxa koriboloi 1000 bosor, aru Hindi nijor bhaxa >> koriboli >> >>5-10 bosor!! >> >> >> >>Aru Oxomot birat sap Hindi xikiboloi aru koboloi. Bortoman Oxomot >> 20-30ta >> >>Hindi TV channel 24/7, 0ta Oxomiya 24/7 channel. Oxomiya konmoinaho~te >> >>Hindi channel-he sai, Hindi ganhe xune, Hindi cinema-he sai, Hindi gan >> >>bojaihe >> >>biyai-xohbai-bihut nase. Todupori, jikhini thait (jene Arunachal, >> >>Nagaland, Meghalayat) Oxomiya kisu koisil tat Hindir pura rajatwa >> sorkari >> >>policy-r karone. Gotike Hindi je dan~or xotru Oxomiya bhaxar xeitu xui >> >>thoka manuhehe najane buli kobo. >> >> >> >>English can never become the mother tongue of an Assamese; hardly any >> >>Assamese will speak English with an English or American or Australian >> >>accent to become an English speaker. The world will not recognize it. >> >>However, an Assamese can easily learn Hindi and start to speak Hindi >> >> like >> >>a native, more or less, and be recognized as such. Soon, if in Assam, >> >>there is no "need" for Assamese, these folks will speak in Hindi only. >> >> >> >>Also, the geographical boundaries of traditional Assamese speaking >> areas >> >>are being eroded by Hindi. Hindi has taken over Arunachal to our north >> >> and >> >>east, Hindi has taken over Nagaland to some extent to our east, Hindi >> has >> >>taken over Meghalaya to our south. Hindi is a bigger danger than >> English >> >>can ever be to the Assamese people. >> >> >> >>Slow Hindi-ization is a way to remove Assamese nationalism. >> >>English-learning and English-speaking is not a hindrance to growth of >> >>Assamese nationalism. >> >> >> >>Hindi and Assamese are much more cognate languages than English and >> >>Assamese. A more congate language can already overshadow a language >> with >> >>1/40th or 1/50th the number of speakers. >> >> >> >>Jugal Kalita >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> > I was asking WHY speaking 'pidgin English' amounts to lack of PRIDE >> >> > and thus a danger to the survival of the Assamese language ( as DNB >> >> > contends) but widespread speaking of 'pidgin Hindi' by the same >> folks >> >> > do not . >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >>As far as Hindi is concerned - it hasn't yet reached the 'status' >> of >> >> >>Ingrezi. Its the language of the masses, So pidgin Hindi doesn't >> >> >>amount to much, while English is still considered the language of >> >> >>the elite in India - the Sahib's language. So there it is - The >> >> >>English left in 1947, but they sure did leave us the language. >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > *** Your explanation is that English is looked up to as the elites' >> >> > way, thus a danger, but Hindi is ordinary folks' language( >> obviously >> >> > for Assamese folks' too), and thus it is not a danger. >> >> > >> >> > Did I understand you correctly Ram? >> >> > >> >> > And if I did, and if I asked you to grade yourself on that answer, >> >> > how would you grade yourself? Pass or fail? A, B, C, D, F--what >> :-)? >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > *** The fact of the matter Ram, is that DNB and his admirers and >> >> > supporters on the matter in this net are unable to admit the fact >> >> > that the latter, the proliferation of Hindi influence on the >> Assamese >> >> > is a far greater danger to the integrity of the Assamese language, >> >> > not English. >> >> > >> >> > Not that they are unable to see it. It is just that to admit it, >> >> > would be inimical to their pan_Indian political aspirations. So, >> they >> >> > would just as soon not see it. >> >> > >> >> > But to not see it signals yet another fact: That they are far less >> >> > concerned about the Assamese language's integrity or long term >> >> > survival, than their concern about Assamese nationalism. >> >> > >> >> > The fact that the Assamese people have not paid heed to this group >> of >> >> > people's concerns make them angry. They think the Assamese people >> are >> >> > foolish. They want them to feel guilty. What better way to make >> that >> >> > happen, than to suggest that they, the people who harbor >> aspirations >> >> > of an Assamese sub-national or national identity have no sense of >> >> > pride in their most significant icon of identity--their language, >> >> > that they suffer from 'inferiority complex' and thus are unworthy >> of >> >> > such aspirations. And to prove it, they cite the Assamese people's >> >> > aspirations for speaking in English, even 'pidgin English', never >> >> > mind that the percentage of such people is minuscule. >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >> >>_______________________________________________ >> >>Assam mailing list >> >>Assam@pikespeak.uccs.edu >> >>http://pikespeak.uccs.edu/mailman/listinfo/assam >> >> >> >>Mailing list FAQ: >> >>http://pikespeak.uccs.edu/assam/assam-faq.html >> >>To unsubscribe or change options: >> >>http://pikespeak.uccs.edu/mailman/options/assam >> > >> > _______________________________________________ Assam mailing list Assam@pikespeak.uccs.edu http://pikespeak.uccs.edu/mailman/listinfo/assam Mailing list FAQ: http://pikespeak.uccs.edu/assam/assam-faq.html To unsubscribe or change options: http://pikespeak.uccs.edu/mailman/options/assam