J. Kalita
Fri, 18 Mar 2005 10:58:32 -0800
Kuneo America-t Oxomiya naikia hoi jabo buli mur ghomoowa nai. Oxomot kintu beleg kotha:
Eitu electronics-or jug. Ajir jugot aru bhobisyotoor prodhan probhabboor hol aru hobo 1) Computer 2) Internet 3) Mobile phones 4) Television Ityadi. Ei bilakot Oxomiyar thai kot? Xunyo etiyaloike. Gotike, bhobisyote ki hoy Oxomot koboloi tan jodihe ami xabodhan nohou~. Oxomiyar thai prithibir bhaxa bilakor bhitorot 41-or pora 50-or bhitorot. Ei talika khon saouk: http://www.assam.org/assam/language/languagelist.html . Oxomiya jona/koowa manuh 15-25 nijut hobo. Kintu lokhyo korok, Hindi (2-nombor prithibit, 400 nijut man kothok), aru Bengali (7-nombor prithibit, 200 nijut man likhok). Ei duta bhaxar pora Oxomiyar uporot prosondo sap. Ei duta bhaxa amar logot mila bhaxa aru 15-or pora 30 gun besi kothok. Ami xabodhan hobo lagibo. Xei karonei moi koi asoo~ notun jugor medium-ot Oxomiya xumabo lagibo, nohole bhobisyot bipodjonok. Jugal Kalita > > O' roba, roba Jugal. kiba uluta kotha buji uluta jaap maaribo nolobasun. > Maani loisu je, hoi, moi tumak saab maari dhorisu - to know about why it > is not coming from inside to our kids, but how is it that I have had the > 'holier than you' attitude? > I myself like and subscribe the Hindi channels here in the US - and pay > $25.00 for two channels a month. That is the only luxury I have in life. > :) I just like it - I am still asking you (and the others including > myself) to do the introspection - why do we like it? > My answer? it is just from inside, we can relate to it - the culture, the > customs, the nature of the everyday life - are so similar to us. yes, > there are many riduculous turns into the stories, still we can relate to > the main theme. Moreover the photography, the color combination, outfits > and style all make it better, things there are colorful, fast and dynamic. > What else? these are just some good points that I can think of. > I was just asking your points - good or bad. You could ask me too without > trying to read my mind with some baseless speculation. > Okay, guput kotha eta etia likhai dilu suwa - moi ei Hindi sobi saai bhaal > puwa lora-suwali bilakor nisinai, kintu kiyo ei lora-sualibilake`aaru > aamaar aagor generation-r maanuh-eu (muk nijoke dhori) ei bhaxaar sobi, > gaan ityadi bhaal paai? > I will give you in writing - you are the one who is different - can't > stand the Hindi stuff and are staying away from their influences, and we > are the ones who are falling for it. > Gotike`moi kenekoi bhaal holu kuwasun? Moyu xei bhukto-bhugihe! (C'da > might call that the conspiracy by the Hindiwalas), got into their trap - > so I don't think I am showing that attitude here, at least, I know I do > show it under some other circumstances, but was not definitely in this > one. > > > > >From: "J. Kalita" >>To: "Alpana B. Sarangapani" >>CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], >> assam@pikespeak.uccs.edu >>Subject: Re: Re: [Assam] Language & Inferiotity Complex-Article by M. >> S. Thirumalai >>Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 15:20:44 -0700 (MST) >> >>Alpona baideu, >> >>apuni okoman sesta korok amak koboloi, ki bhitorua, swobhabgoto karon >> ase. >>ei karonbor amar gat besikoi ase neki? kar logot tulona korile besikoi >>aru kar logot tulona korile komkoi ase? >> >>jodi apuni apunar kotha manuhe xuni >>sinta-sorsa kora bisare, tenehole gorihona diya bhaxare, >>mo-bhal-manuh-baki-sob-beya monoobhabere, nilikhibo. >> >>Jugal >> >> > >> > Those are good but 'baahira kaaron'. But why are these 'baahira >> bostu-e` >> > aamaar uthi oha saam-ok probhawambito koribo paarise'? Nijor driho >> > monobhav thaakile maanuhor bybohaar kune-o poribortito koribo nuware`. >> > It will be good if we could also find the intrinsic reason/s for the >> > people/youths accepting and behaving that way. >> > >> > >> > >From: "J. Kalita" >> >>To: "Alpana B. Sarangapani" >> >>CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], >> >> assam@pikespeak.uccs.edu >> >>Subject: Re: Re: [Assam] Language & Inferiotity >> Complex-Article by M. >> >> S. Thirumalai >> >>Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 10:18:57 -0700 (MST) >> >> >> >>Bohutoo karon ase. Keitaman: >> >> >> >>1) Hindi Bharot sorkaror bhaxa. Kendriyo sorkaror sakori korile >> >>Hindi janibo lage. Moor dadai NEEPCO-t kam kore. Koise uporor officer >> >> boor >> >>xadharonote Hindi koowa manuh. Hindi nokole, office-ot ba bahirot, >> >>sakorit, promotion-ot digdari hoy. >> >> >> >>Akou ei Decemberot ghoroloi jaa~ote moi moor enjon NEDFi-t kam kora >> >> bondhuk >> >>phone korisiloo~ keibarman office-ot. Phone dhora manuhe kewol Hindi >> >>(aru ketiyaba Ingraji) koy. Oxomiyat kotha kole uttor nidiye. >> >> >> >>2) Hindi koowa manuh, Bihar UP-adir, Oxomot bohutoo. Ei manuhsame >> >>Oxomiya nokoy, ba sestao nokore. Karon Hindi "Bharotor bhaxa", >> xololoowe >> >>janibo lage teo~lookor mote. Ei Decemborot ghoroloi jaao~te moi ebar >> >>eta number-ot bhulote call korisiloo~. 1)-r dore xei manuhjoneo >> Oxomiya >> >>nokoy, kewol Hindithe kotha koy "Hindi-me boliye!". Moi gali porathe >> >>Oxomiya koboloi sesta kore. >> >> >> >>3) Central school-e bhorti hoi porise Oxomot. Central School bilak >> >>"glorified" Hindi medium school. Oxomiya bixoyoo nai ei school >> bilakot. >> >> >> >>4) Oxomot bate ghate military-ye bhorti check point ityadit. Xiho~te >> >> Hindir >> >>bahire onyo bhaxa nokoy. >> >> >> >>5) Cable TV-t koonoo regulation nai. Cable TV operator-e jihoke pai >> take >> >>dekhuwai. Koonoo dexote eitoo niyom nai. Local content buli ekoo nai. >> >>Hindi TV (1950 manor) pora Bharot sorkaror kooti kooti toka khorosot >> >>gorhi uthil 1990+ manoloi. Bharot sorkare bheti bonai dile. Amar >> >>Oxomiya TV-r bheti ghathiboloi etiya Bharot ba Oxom sorkaor toka nai. >> >>Bheti nogothakoi etiya "compete" koribo lagibo. >> >> >> >>6) Bharot sorkaror policy-r karone Arunachal Pradeshat L.P. schoolor >> pora >> >>arombho kori xokoloo srenite Hindir pradurbhab. >> Manipur/Nagaland/Meghalay >> >>aditoo tenei. >> >> >> >>7) Oxomiya manuhor onyo bhaxa koowar obhyax asei. Gotike xubidha pale >> >>nijortu eri onyotoohe loi, xeituwoo karon. >> >> >> >>If anyone else wants to add to this list, one is welcome. >> >> >> >>I am fairly busy today, but I will try to write some remedies as I see >> >> them. >> >> >> >>My request, please try to provide your responses, at least partially >> in >> >>Assamese. Let's show that we don't lack in self-respect for the >> Assamese >> >>language. If Assamese cannot find expression in two of the world's >> newest >> >>media: TV and Internet, it's going to be doomed. Let's start the >> culture >> >>of writing Assamese (of course, as the second language) on the >> Internet. >> >>Let's prove that Assamese has its place on the Internet, in some form >> or >> >>other, in a major way. We can show the way to the others by doing so >> >> right >> >>here. >> >> >> >>Jugal >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> > Very well said and understood that there is a problem that Assam >> might >> >> be >> >> > facing from the Hindi culture. >> >> > Now would one of you (you and C'da) be kind enough to tell us why >> is >> >> this >> >> > happening? Is it lack of love and pride for our own language, >> >> inferiority >> >> > complex, insecurity, glamor, force, good marketing style? what?? >> >> > And, what is the solution to it? Censor? Go to everyone's home and >> >> shut >> >> > off their tv if they are not watching an Assamese movie/program, or >> >> > produce classy Assamese movies with good storylines, acting, color >> >> > production that do not follow the style of the hindi movies - >> running >> >> > around the bushes or girls dancing in a club with those mini, mini >> >> skirts >> >> > and men holding poms and dancing, or wearing a bright pink suit? >> >> > In short, the causes and the solution please! >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >From: "J. Kalita" >> >> >>To: "Chan Mahanta" >> >> >>CC: assam@pikespeak.uccs.edu >> >> >>Subject: Re: [Assam] Language & Inferiotity >> Complex-Article by >> >> M. S. >> >> >> Thirumalai >> >> >>Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 21:52:41 -0700 (MST) >> >> >> >> >> >>Chandan-dai koowa kothakhini gurutwopurno. Xeituwei dhurup xotyo. >> >> >> >> >> >>Oxomiya bhaxar bipod dui-ejone Ingraji koowar pora oha nai. Oxomiya >> >> >> bhaxar >> >> >>dan~or bipod hol Hindi bhaxa. Oxomiya manuhe Ingraji koi native >> >> English >> >> >>speaker hobo nooware hazar bosor goleo. Kintu, Oxomiya manuhe, >> Oxomiya >> >> >>lora suwaliye Hindi TV sai sai, Hindi cinema sai sai, Hindi >> schoolot >> >> >>porhi, Hindi koowa thailoi furiboli goi, keibosor manote >> >> >>xolxoliyakoi Hindi kobo pare native Hindi speaker-or nisinakoi. >> >> >> >> >> >>Ingraji nijor bhaxa koriboloi 1000 bosor, aru Hindi nijor bhaxa >> >> koriboli >> >> >>5-10 bosor!! >> >> >> >> >> >>Aru Oxomot birat sap Hindi xikiboloi aru koboloi. Bortoman Oxomot >> >> 20-30ta >> >> >>Hindi TV channel 24/7, 0ta Oxomiya 24/7 channel. Oxomiya >> konmoinaho~te >> >> >>Hindi channel-he sai, Hindi ganhe xune, Hindi cinema-he sai, Hindi >> gan >> >> >>bojaihe >> >> >>biyai-xohbai-bihut nase. Todupori, jikhini thait (jene Arunachal, >> >> >>Nagaland, Meghalayat) Oxomiya kisu koisil tat Hindir pura rajatwa >> >> sorkari >> >> >>policy-r karone. Gotike Hindi je dan~or xotru Oxomiya bhaxar xeitu >> xui >> >> >>thoka manuhehe najane buli kobo. >> >> >> >> >> >>English can never become the mother tongue of an Assamese; hardly >> any >> >> >>Assamese will speak English with an English or American or >> Australian >> >> >>accent to become an English speaker. The world will not recognize >> it. >> >> >>However, an Assamese can easily learn Hindi and start to speak >> Hindi >> >> >> like >> >> >>a native, more or less, and be recognized as such. Soon, if in >> Assam, >> >> >>there is no "need" for Assamese, these folks will speak in Hindi >> only. >> >> >> >> >> >>Also, the geographical boundaries of traditional Assamese speaking >> >> areas >> >> >>are being eroded by Hindi. Hindi has taken over Arunachal to our >> north >> >> >> and >> >> >>east, Hindi has taken over Nagaland to some extent to our east, >> Hindi >> >> has >> >> >>taken over Meghalaya to our south. Hindi is a bigger danger than >> >> English >> >> >>can ever be to the Assamese people. >> >> >> >> >> >>Slow Hindi-ization is a way to remove Assamese nationalism. >> >> >>English-learning and English-speaking is not a hindrance to growth >> of >> >> >>Assamese nationalism. >> >> >> >> >> >>Hindi and Assamese are much more cognate languages than English and >> >> >>Assamese. A more congate language can already overshadow a language >> >> with >> >> >>1/40th or 1/50th the number of speakers. >> >> >> >> >> >>Jugal Kalita >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> > I was asking WHY speaking 'pidgin English' amounts to lack of >> PRIDE >> >> >> > and thus a danger to the survival of the Assamese language ( as >> DNB >> >> >> > contends) but widespread speaking of 'pidgin Hindi' by the same >> >> folks >> >> >> > do not . >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> >>As far as Hindi is concerned - it hasn't yet reached the >> 'status' >> >> of >> >> >> >>Ingrezi. Its the language of the masses, So pidgin Hindi doesn't >> >> >> >>amount to much, while English is still considered the language >> of >> >> >> >>the elite in India - the Sahib's language. So there it is - The >> >> >> >>English left in 1947, but they sure did leave us the language. >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > *** Your explanation is that English is looked up to as the >> elites' >> >> >> > way, thus a danger, but Hindi is ordinary folks' language( >> >> obviously >> >> >> > for Assamese folks' too), and thus it is not a danger. >> >> >> > >> >> >> > Did I understand you correctly Ram? >> >> >> > >> >> >> > And if I did, and if I asked you to grade yourself on that >> answer, >> >> >> > how would you grade yourself? Pass or fail? A, B, C, D, F--what >> >> :-)? >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > *** The fact of the matter Ram, is that DNB and his admirers and >> >> >> > supporters on the matter in this net are unable to admit the >> fact >> >> >> > that the latter, the proliferation of Hindi influence on the >> >> Assamese >> >> >> > is a far greater danger to the integrity of the Assamese >> language, >> >> >> > not English. >> >> >> > >> >> >> > Not that they are unable to see it. It is just that to admit it, >> >> >> > would be inimical to their pan_Indian political aspirations. So, >> >> they >> >> >> > would just as soon not see it. >> >> >> > >> >> >> > But to not see it signals yet another fact: That they are far >> less >> >> >> > concerned about the Assamese language's integrity or long term >> >> >> > survival, than their concern about Assamese nationalism. >> >> >> > >> >> >> > The fact that the Assamese people have not paid heed to this >> group >> >> of >> >> >> > people's concerns make them angry. They think the Assamese >> people >> >> are >> >> >> > foolish. They want them to feel guilty. What better way to make >> >> that >> >> >> > happen, than to suggest that they, the people who harbor >> >> aspirations >> >> >> > of an Assamese sub-national or national identity have no sense >> of >> >> >> > pride in their most significant icon of identity--their >> language, >> >> >> > that they suffer from 'inferiority complex' and thus are >> unworthy >> >> of >> >> >> > such aspirations. And to prove it, they cite the Assamese >> people's >> >> >> > aspirations for speaking in English, even 'pidgin English', >> never >> >> >> > mind that the percentage of such people is minuscule. >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >>_______________________________________________ >> >> >>Assam mailing list >> >> >>Assam@pikespeak.uccs.edu >> >> >>http://pikespeak.uccs.edu/mailman/listinfo/assam >> >> >> >> >> >>Mailing list FAQ: >> >> >>http://pikespeak.uccs.edu/assam/assam-faq.html >> >> >>To unsubscribe or change options: >> >> >>http://pikespeak.uccs.edu/mailman/options/assam >> >> > >> >> >> > >> > _______________________________________________ Assam mailing list Assam@pikespeak.uccs.edu http://pikespeak.uccs.edu/mailman/listinfo/assam Mailing list FAQ: http://pikespeak.uccs.edu/assam/assam-faq.html To unsubscribe or change options: http://pikespeak.uccs.edu/mailman/options/assam