I mean, its failures are not necessarily the fault of the nuclear plants themselves.....
On 24 February 2010 15:25, <ton...@tpg.com.au> wrote: > yep, exactly. So don't follow Spain then! > > > On Wed, Feb 24th, 2010 at 3:24 PM, mike smith <meski...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Spain isn't a poster child for good economy. > > > > On 24 February 2010 14:24, <ton...@tpg.com.au> wrote: > > > > > Nuclear plant in Finland 3-5billion over budget > > > Siemens Areva Finish govt in law suit love triangle > > > Areva just bought Multibird wind turbines and Ausra solar thermal > > > so they're so sure of Nuclear that they're diversiftying into > > renewables > > > Spain's SENER built the successful nukes in spain -- has now > > stopped and is > > > building molten salt > > > power tower solar thermal plants 24 hour baseload solar plants > > > and when they built the nukes they didn't want to own them > > > As for some other nuke plants in Spain that failed to get > > commissioned > > > Spain lost 6 billion euro's > > > on these. > > > 6 billion euro's -- no power out the other end -- economic > > modelling not > > > required > > > > > > bad investment > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Feb 24th, 2010 at 12:50 PM, Paul Gaske <p...@codify.com> > > wrote: > > > > > > > On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 11:37 AM, mike smith > > <meski...@gmail.com> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > On 23 February 2010 21:29, Tony Wright <ton...@tpg.com.au> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > >> And you don’t need to go nuclear. Nuclear as it currently > > > > stands is just > > > > >> a disgraceful option. The radioactive waste in current > > nuclear > > > > reactors with > > > > >> current technology takes 10,000 years to break down. > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > That would be excluding IFR reactors? Why exclude the best > > > > technology when > > > > > you quote figures? > > > > > > > > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Breeder_reactor > > > > > > > > > > <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Breeder_reactor> > > > > > Even more comprehensive are systems such as the Integral Fast > > > > Reactor<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Integral_Fast_Reactor> > > (IFR) > > > > > pyroprocessing system, which uses pools of molten > > > > cadmium<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cadmium> and > > > > > electrorefiners to reprocess metallic fuel directly on-site at > > the > > > > reactor. > > > > > [9] <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Breeder_reactor#cite_note-8> > > > > Such > > > > > systems not only commingle all the minor actinides with both > > > > uranium and > > > > > plutonium, they are compact and self-contained, so that no > > > > > plutonium-containing material ever needs to be transported > > away > > > > from the > > > > > site of the breeder reactor. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Just to add to the nuclear option; thorium reactors producing 3% > > of > > > > the > > > > waste of a traditional nuclear reactor. Additionally, the waste > > > > produced > > > > has a half-life of 500 years. > > > > > > > > http://www.abc.net.au/quantum/scripts98/9820/rundown.htm#thorium > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Paul Gaske (p...@codify.com) > > > > Software Engineer > > > > Codify Pty Ltd - www.codify.com > > > > Phone: +61 (7) 3210 6268 | Facsimile: +61 (7) 3210 6269 | Mobile: > > +61 > > > > 417 > > > > 791 916 > > > > Address Info: http://www.codify.com/AboutUs/ContactDetails > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Meski > > > > "Going to Starbucks for coffee is like going to prison for sex. Sure, > > you'll > > get it, but it's going to be rough" - Adam Hills > > > > > > -- Meski "Going to Starbucks for coffee is like going to prison for sex. Sure, you'll get it, but it's going to be rough" - Adam Hills
