I don't.  Can you prove it to me, insha'allah?  I am completely ignorant 
of this fact.

On 12/26/2009 8:10 PM, Syed Ehtisham wrote:
> You are a GD nut.
> No proof needed. Every one knows it.
>
> Dr. Syed Ehtisham
> (607) 776-3336
> Blog syedehtisham.blogspot.com
> Feudalism, militarism, fundamentalism and bureaucrats constitute the 
> evil Quad in Pakistan.
>
> --- On *Sat, 12/26/09, kaukab siddique /<butshi...@msn.com>/* wrote:
>
>
>     From: kaukab siddique <butshi...@msn.com>
>     Subject: Ehtisham's lie. RE: [bangla-vision] Tarek Fatah's
>     allegation. RE: Pakistan Army staging a fake fight with the
>     Taliban: Canadian paper quotes West Point report
>     To: bangla-vision@yahoogroups.com
>     Date: Saturday, December 26, 2009, 1:20 PM
>
>     Syed Ehtisham
>     Come up with evidence or admit that you are a bloody liar.
>
>
>
>     ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>     To: bangla-vision@ yahoogroups. com
>     From: syed...@yahoo. com
>     Date: Fri, 25 Dec 2009 19:42:54 -0800
>     Subject: RE: [bangla-vision] Tarek Fatah's allegation. RE:
>     Pakistan Army staging a fake fight with the Taliban: Canadian
>     paper quotes West Point report
>
>     No, but you certainly are.
>
>     Dr. Syed Ehtisham
>     (607) 776-3336
>     Blog syedehtisham. blogspot. com
>     Feudalism, militarism, fundamentalism and bureaucrats constitute
>     the evil Quad in Pakistan.
>
>     --- On *Fri, 12/25/09, kaukab siddique /<butshi...@msn. com>/* wrote:
>
>
>         From: kaukab siddique <butshi...@msn. com>
>         Subject: RE: [bangla-vision] Tarek Fatah's allegation. RE:
>         Pakistan Army staging a fake fight with the Taliban: Canadian
>         paper quotes West Point report
>         To: bangla-vision@ yahoogroups. com
>         Date: Friday, December 25, 2009, 10:43 AM
>
>         Are you one of them?
>
>
>         
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>         To: bangla-vision@ yahoogroups. com
>         CC: tarekfa...@roger. com
>         From: syed...@yahoo. com
>         Date: Thu, 24 Dec 2009 23:37:39 -0800
>         Subject: Re: [bangla-vision] Tarek Fatah's allegation. RE:
>         Pakistan Army staging a fake fight with the Taliban: Canadian
>         paper quotes West Point report
>
>         Most fanatics are Saudi funded.
>         E
>
>         Dr. Syed Ehtisham
>         (607) 776-3336
>         Blog syedehtisham. blogspot. com
>         Feudalism, militarism, fundamentalism and bureaucrats
>         constitute the evil Quad in Pakistan.
>
>         --- On *Fri, 12/25/09, kaukab siddique /<butshi...@msn. com>/*
>         wrote:
>
>
>             From: kaukab siddique <butshi...@msn. com>
>             Subject: [bangla-vision] Tarek Fatah's allegation. RE:
>             Pakistan Army staging a fake fight with the Taliban:
>             Canadian paper quotes West Point report
>             To: tarekfa...@rogers. com, muslimchronicle@ yahoogroups. com
>             Cc: pakistanaffairs@ yahoogroups. com, bangla-vision@
>             yahoogroups. com, bintwal...@yahoo. com
>             Date: Friday, December 25, 2009, 12:36 AM
>
>             Tarek Fatah wrote:
>
>             "...Saudi funded Jamaat-e-Islami. .."
>
>             Mr. Fatah, what is your source for this claim that Jamaate
>             Islami is Saudi funded?
>
>
>             
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>             From: tarekfa...@rogers. com
>             Date: Wed, 23 Dec 2009 09:52:56 -0500
>             Subject: Pakistan Army staging a fake fight with the
>             Taliban: Canadian paper quotes West Point report
>             To: muslimchronicle@ yahoogroups. com
>
>
>
>             Pakistan Army staging a fake fight with the Taliban:
>
>             West Point report says little evidence of heavy fighting
>
>
>             Friends,
>
>             Here is more evidence of the Pakistan Army indulging in
>             shadowboxing and staging fake encounters to fool the rest
>             of us. It claims it is engaged in fighting the Taliban
>             while there is plenty evidence to the contrary.
>
>             No wonder the Army and its Islamist allies in the
>             Pakistani Judiciary, the Intelligence apparatus and the
>             Saudi funded Jamaat-e-Islami, want to destabilize the
>             Zardari government that has sworn to fight the Taliban.
>
>             Read and reflect.
>
>             Tarek
>             --------
>             
> <http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=10028831&op=1&view=all&subj=216271762507&aid=-1&auser=0&oid=216271762507&id=232098235463>
>             December 23, 2009
>
>             *West Point Study casts doubt on Pakistan Army's battle
>             claims against Taliban*
>
>             Peter Goodspeed
>             The National Post
>             http://www.national post.com/news/world/ story.html?
>             id=2372511
>             <http://www.nationalpost.com/news/world/story.html?id=2372511>
>
>             While Pakistan's Prime Minister, Yousuf Raza Gilani, has
>             claimed a military offensive in South Waziristan is over
>             and successful, a new study published by the Combating
>             Terrorism Center at the U.S. Military Academy at West
>             Point, N.Y., is far less enthusiastic.
>
>             It suggests there is little evidence of heavy fighting in
>             the area because "it appears most militants fled in the
>             face of the government advance."
>
>             The fact the Pakistan army telegraphed its intention to
>             launch an offensive for almost four months before sending
>             troops into South Waziristan on Oct. 17, allowed the bulk
>             of the Pakistani Taliban to withdraw and disperse to
>             neighbouring tribal areas, the study says.
>
>             The Pakistan government claims to have killed 589 Taliban
>             terrorists during the offensive and says 79 of its troops
>             were killed in action, but the study says it is difficult
>             to confirm those claims.
>
>             "It was impossible for the media to independently confirm
>             both the military and Taliban claims of casualties due to
>             the lack of access to the conflict zone, disrupted lines
>             of communication and the dislocation of almost all of the
>             civilian population from the area," said Rahimullah
>             Yusufzai, the security analyst who wrote the report.
>
>             Spokesmen for the Taliban insist the hardline Islamists
>             executed a "tactical retreat" from their strongholds in
>             South Waziristan. They also claim that while the Pakistan
>             army occupies the major roads in South Waziristan, they
>             remain entrenched in the surrounding forests and mountains.
>
>             Still, the report says the Taliban's retreat did not
>             appear to be well organized since they left behind heavy
>             weapons and even cooked food, suggesting they fled in a hurry.
>
>             "Lending credence to the TTP's [Tehreek-e-Taliban
>             Pakistan, Movement of the Taliban in Pakistan] claims
>             about a tactical retreat, the government has so far failed
>             to kill or arrest any senior TTP leaders," the study says .
>
>             "Even by accepting the military's claims of 589 Taliban
>             fighters killed, it is clear that the majority of fighters
>             -- numbering in the thousands -- were able to escape and
>             will likely continue to pose a threat," Mr. Yusufzai said.
>
>             The study suggests Taliban fugitives and as many as 1,500
>             foreign fighters may have relocated to the Orakzai Agency
>             tribal area to the north. This is where Hakimullah Mehsud
>             used to command a wing of the TTP before he took control
>             of the organization in South Waziristan after the group's
>             founder, Baitullah Mehsud, was killed by a U.S. drone last
>             August.
>
>             The Pakistan Taliban have retreated, replicating tactics
>             used by the Afghan Taliban, the study says. Now, they can
>             be expected to employ guerrilla tactics to harass
>             advancing troops and attack remote outposts.
>
>             The Taliban have also retaliated by carrying out suicide
>             bombings and other attacks in Pakistan's urban centres.
>
>             For its part, Pakistan's military says it is concentrating
>             on clearing militants from captured territory in South
>             Waziristan and hopes to restore public services in the
>             region in time to allow local tribespeople to return to
>             their homes in April.
>
>             But Mr. Yusufzai predicts the region could slide into a
>             prolonged insurgency and counter-insurgency. "The struggle
>             is far from over," Mr. Yusufzai said. "The TTP has proved
>             through its unrelenting campaign of terrorist attacks in
>             Pakistani cities that its capabilities have not been fully
>             degraded.
>
>             "Its success in hitting high-security military targets
>             through complex suicide assaults proves that it can
>             continue to launch operations," he said.
>
>             
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