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[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: question about Savarez wound Gut Strings

Anton Birula
Fri, 28 Sep 2007 01:12:22 -0700

Czesc Jarek,

Thanks for  your writing, I absolutely agree with your
statements. I am not so concerned over correctness. 
I am indeed concerned with practical side of the
matter since we are having usually one baroque lute
for all repertoire from early french to late German
baroque lute works.
The gut strung lute allows us to play things in a way
that is almost not achievable on synthetic. This is
what makes me think of them in the first place.  The
tone and the feel especially I find absolutely great.
You are right concerning wound strings. They are maybe
not historical. And obviously the open wound gut
strings are perfect for french music and some Weiss.
But when comming to Bach compositions and
transcriptions of cello  suites and violin sonatas and
partitas or late weiss works like fis moll suite from
dresden the instrument asks for different bass.... I
feel it so.
I think Mimmos concept of basses is great and I have
them. There are some things which make me want to
compare them to wound concept.

Actually I have two Klaus Jacobsen 13 course lutes
here in warsaw strung in gut with different sorts of
basses and a Richard Berg Lute with Dan Larson gimp
and pistoy strings - a unique research field!
You are welcome to try them since we are happily close
in one city!

Anton
--- Jaros³aw Lipski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hi Anton,
> 
> Yes, I've tried them but they are not much different
> from wound nylon.
> Your question however gave me an impulse to write
> couple of thoughts about
> stringing. 
> In general when choosing strings for any lute I
> consider three things:
> 1/ do I want to be historically correct? ( and then
> the obvious choice is
> gut)
> 2/ what tonal qualities of the lute are the most
> important for me? 
> 3/ is this particular stringing practical in the
> concert situation?
> 
> Well, it's quite difficult to answer these questions
> only one way. Firstly
> are we 100% sure what really means historically
> correct. I know that Mimo
> Peruffo makes very extended research in this field,
> but we actually don't
> have strings from XVI century at hand so we can't
> test them and say for sure
> "this is what those old folks used". We know that
> the bases where probably
> loaded or specially treated but we can not ever be
> sure how.
> Now, if we want to answer the second question the
> problem arises that we
> have the modern ears. We can say for example this
> sounds good because we
> have the comparison with other tonal qualities of
> different instruments that
> we can hear nowadays. But who can say what people
> liked in Baroque? What
> tonal qualities they admired and what was acceptable
> for their ears? I am
> afraid we would be very surprised!!
> And here comes the third consideration. If my lute
> is not strung all over
> gut and I  don't mind being historically correct so
> why to use wound gut
> which is neither historical nor practical? I am not
> trying to say we should
> either use only gut or only synthetic, but for me
> wound gut being reliable
> on humidity and temperature doesn't bring any  extra
> qualities in exchange.
> 
> Jarek
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Anton Birula [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2007 12:01 AM
> To: baroque-lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
> Subject: [BAROQUE-LUTE] question about Savarez wound
> Gut Strings
> 
> Dear Friends,
> 
> I wonder if anybody is using the savarez 
> - Copper Wound Gut or- Silver plated Wound Gut
> strings. I would love to try theses strings on my
> baroque lute but would be happy to hear from someone
> who is familiar with them. I also wonder what the
> tension idea is.
> 
> I read about them here
> http://www.savarez.fr/anglais/instanci-pince.html#
> 
> Would appreciate any information. 
> Anton Birula
> 
> 
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