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[uucdigest] Saturday, February 17 2001 Volume 03 : Number 3314 _________________________________________________________________ | | Search the ARCHIVES: | http://www.mail-archive.com/bmwuucdigest@uucdigest.com | | Visit Richard Nott's Ultimate BMW Database: | http://www.gis.nsw.gov.au/staff/rnott/bmw/bmw.html | | For all available Digest commands including unsubscribe/subscribe, | visit the BMW UUC Digest page: http://www.uucdigest.com | Send SUBMISSIONS to [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Complaints? Send 'em to [EMAIL PROTECTED] if you must. | Technical Problems? Send 'em to [EMAIL PROTECTED] |__________________________________________________________________ In this BMW UUC Digest: RE: [uuc] Long Beach Grand Prix - CART race [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Re: [uuc] V12 [=?iso-8859-1?q?Richard=20M?= <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>] Re: [uuc] Hartge Press Release [=?iso-8859-1?q?Richard=20M?= <richard535i] [uuc] LBGP [Michael Andre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>] [uuc] Vasoline for door seals? ["Rob" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>] Re: [uuc] Hartge Press Release [ben keyes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>] Re: [uuc] Re.: Replacing lower arms on E30 325is ["Gary Derian" <gderian@] [uuc] E30 M3 costs [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Re: [uuc] Vasoline for door seals? [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] [uuc] RE: Transmission bolt pattern the same? M70 V12 vs M30 big 6 ["tdot] Re: [uuc] E30 M3 costs [Jim Powell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>] Re: [uuc] E30 M3 costs [Donna Seeley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>] Re: [uuc] V12 [Herman Chan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>] [uuc] Hartge Press Release [Neil Deshpande <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>] Re: [uuc] Re.: Replacing lower arms on E30 325is ["Steve Haygood" <shaygo] Re: [uuc] E30 M3 costs [Jim Ochi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 18:02:41 -0500 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [uuc] Long Beach Grand Prix - CART race >Anyone who's attended in the past - tell us >some good experiences and which seats are the best. If you can, take a scanner with you and sit where you can see the pits. There's usually someone with all the channels somewhere around the entrance gate, if not scan.... :-). You can listen in on the pit communications of your favorite team and on race control. I though it was pretty cool. You'll know who's misbehaving on the track and what flags have been called, also you can hear all the swearing going on when the drivers really screw up. This is what you hear from race control: "Tracy just ran over his crew member. He's done. Black flag him." and about one of the rookie drivers: "What's he still doing on the track?" "He's not responding to the flags" "Have the race marshall have a talk with him, after that we'll talk to him some more." Then on TV you hear some watered down version from the announcers. Carlos 91 M3 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 23:59:20 +0000 (GMT) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Richard=20M?= <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] V12 No no no, best performance upgrade, 4 turbochargers ;-) Richard M > > Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 08:13:12 EST > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: [uuc] V12 > > V12 engines were based on other BMW production > engines. Clean sheet propaganda is BS. First > generation was based on M20 (especially cylinder > head), later version shared valvetrain parts with > M40. Check out BMW MT book about BMW > engines,unfortunately only available through MT in > Germany and quite expensive, approx. 150$. > Best Performance upgrade: > 5.6 liter version from 850csi. > or camshafts from Schrick > displacement increase from 5.6 L parts > extrude hone intake manifold > chip > > Henry Noble > ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 17 Feb 2001 00:37:23 +0000 (GMT) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Richard=20M?= <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] Hartge Press Release Here's a link to the picture refered to in the article http://www.geocities.com/richard535i/R50Tornado.jpg Richard M > > Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 17:07:30 -0500 > From: "Steven Reed" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: [uuc] Hartge Press Release > > I found this pretty interesting. Anybody know more > about it? > > <http://www.hartge.de/english.html> > > Steve > ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 16:45:48 -0800 From: Michael Andre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] LBGP LBGP is April 5-8. Grandstand 5 is cool because you sit at the end of the high speed straight in clear view of three big turns. I already have tickets. Phone numbers for tickets are 562-436-9953, or toll free 888-82-SPEED. Michael Andre ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 18:55:55 -0700 From: "Rob" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] Vasoline for door seals? My E36/4 makes terrible creaking and groaning noises from the rubber door seals. I've tried spraying them with silicone but the sound doesn't go away so I'm considering giving them a liberal coating of Vasoline as I 'think' it might fix the problem. Anyone think this petroleum based product will hurt the rubber seals in any way? Other ideas on how to make the creaking stop every time my car twists or hits a big bump? TIA, Rob ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 20:54:25 -0500 From: ben keyes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] Hartge Press Release Steven Reed wrote: > I found this pretty interesting. Anybody know more about it? > <http://www.hartge.de/english.html> sounds like a pretty blatant case of theft of someone else's work. I know that there was a schism between Racing Dynamics in Italy & someone using their name here in the US, but it was always my recollection that the US folks were the under-handed ones. if this is the way the European side does business then I guess both sides are equally dis-honest. Ben thinks the Hartge 19" wheels are pretty good looking, but could never imagine spending that kind of money on wheels.... ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 17:55:42 -0500 From: "Gary Derian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] Re.: Replacing lower arms on E30 325is Kerosene? Not on my bushings. Kerosene leaves an oily film. Soap evaporates better. Not 100% liquid detergent from the bottle, more like something you would wash the car with, mostly water, just a little soap. Gary Derian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > and some recommend kerosene so that there is no > residual lubrication when you're done (kerosene evaps) > and the bushing can grip the arm. I used soap. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 21:42:58 EST From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [uuc] E30 M3 costs In a message dated 2/16/01 4:57:01 PM Eastern Standard time it was written: << So Michel, how is the weather in Key West? >> Awesome. 76° and clear. Temp only varies about 6° since Monday! and further written <<<< You apparently got one that a) either had VERY low miles or >> It had 55K when I purchased it. 64K now. << But..... Do you drive it? :) >> Yes. Had Powell gone to O'fest he would have seen it. << First, I believe the one Michel owns has like 20k on it something crazy low.>> No, see above. It is my 2002 that has 20,000 miles on it. The M3 respects me and I respect it. After 30 years of servicing BMWs (no more) I've learned a thing or two I hope. Michel ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 21:58:07 -0500 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [uuc] Vasoline for door seals? >My E36/4 makes terrible creaking and groaning noises from the rubber >door seals. BMW rubber care dude. Gummi-phlege or however it's spelled, that's what BMW recommends and it'll keep your doors from freezing as well (not the locks of course). Carlos 91 M3 Gummi-ed up before every winter ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 21:45:40 -0500 From: "tdotzler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] RE: Transmission bolt pattern the same? M70 V12 vs M30 big 6 Dave, The bellhousings look to be the same shape. although the 750il is pictured as an automatic in the ETK. The bolts are different with torx bolts on the v12 and hex bolts on the 535i. Also they are of different lengths. They seem to be located in the same place on both bellhousings. According to my local BMW dealer shop manager, a knowledgeable tech, the big car engines after 1984 will bolt up to the various transmissions. I have ordered one bolt of each size so i can match up to some threaded rod from the local fastener shop. I have each of these motors ready to go on an engine stand. Need long bolts for my stands, hence the rods/nuts instead of bolts. Tom Dotzler ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 20:15:38 -0800 From: Jim Powell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] E30 M3 costs I'm just jealous you have a great car. I would love to go to O'Fest. Unfortunately I can't really take the 2 weeks off to get there and back in my car from San Diego. And I'll be damned if I'll show up at an O'Fest in a Taurus. When they have the next one at Denver, Dallas or points west, I'll be there. Jim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > << But..... Do you drive it? :) >> > Yes. Had Powell gone to O'fest he would have seen it. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 20:36:10 -0800 From: Donna Seeley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] E30 M3 costs Not a Taurus! The hot rental for O'fest is a Grand Am GT (rebadged as a 340bs for the week). Ask Tammi or Bassett about the lunch run. :) I wanted to take it out at Road Atlanta; then I saw turn 12... Donna ------- 88 M3, "Guido" -> Boulder for O'fest 2001 95 330isA, super-commuter > From: Jim Powell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > I'm just jealous you have a great car. I would love to go to O'Fest. > Unfortunately I can't really take the 2 weeks off to get there and back in my > car from San Diego. And I'll be damned if I'll show up at an O'Fest in a > Taurus. > > When they have the next one at Denver, Dallas or points west, I'll be there. > > Jim > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >> << But..... Do you drive it? :) >> >> Yes. Had Powell gone to O'fest he would have seen it. > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 20:36:16 -0800 From: Herman Chan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] V12 From: "Gary Derian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > One question I have is how does the production engine > compare to the McLaren F1 road car engine. From the specs > I've seen, the McLaren engine is two Euro S50 engines put > together. Bore, stroke and power exactly match. I believe > the S50/M50 shares bore centers and perhaps head bolt > locations with the M20. Some relevant passages from McLaren's propaganda: "Paul (Rosche) then told Gordon (Murray) that his Motorsport people were improving BMW's flagship production 5-litre V12, perfecting 48-valve heads to be fitted to it." "On October 25, 1990, Gordon visited Munich. The hopped-up production V12 would not do: 'Too big and heavy. Definitely not for us. Then Paul asked 'What do you really want?', so I told him: big displacement in the smallest possible overall package-size -- absolutely no more than 600mm long -- revving to around seven-five -- 550-plus bhp -- maximum weight 250kg -- rigid enough to work as a load-bearing structural member -- dry-sump lubrication to minimise overall height and avoid surge in high-G cornering. And Paul simply said 'We'll do a new engine.'" "The S70/2 engine was derived directly from BMW production practise, inheriting many features proved in the 6-cylinder power unit for their M5 high-performance saloon. Both the minimum-size new dedicated cylinder block and heads were cast in aluminium, the cylinder bores Nicasil-coated for wear resistance. Con-rods and crankshaft were to be forged and twisted steel, lightweight shallow-skirted pistons in forged aluminium, and the exhaust valves sodium-cooled. No resort was made to exotic titanium valves or con-rods." "While the S70/2's twin-overhead camshaft and 4-valve per cylinder valvetrain technology was shared with the high-performance M3, the distantly related engines were tuned to significantly different torque characteristics." [Nicasil blocks?! I wonder if these engines have sulphur-related problems] > I would expect BMW to base the V-12 on the M20, if only in > a few basic areas such as bore centers. Yes? No? Long ago, I vaguely recall reading an article the said that the majority, if not all BMW engines share the same bore centers to ease manufacturing. Apparently, this allows the same machine tool to work on the blocks for all the engines. Clean sheets? All new? I guess it depends on your own interpretation of what each term means. How many of you believe that the M54/S54 are "all new?" Herman ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 20:57:16 -0800 (PST) From: Neil Deshpande <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [uuc] Hartge Press Release Steve: I just bought that BMW Car yesterday because it had an article on buying used E34 M5s. It has a huge article on Hartge cars with most cars they've done represented it seems. I skimmed that part, I'm afraid as I never followed Hartge that closely. Neil Deshpande http://www.neilwerke.com *** "Steven Reed" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I found this pretty interesting. Anybody know more about it? <http://www.hartge.de/english.html> __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 17 Feb 2001 00:58:15 -0500 From: "Steve Haygood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] Re.: Replacing lower arms on E30 325is OEM ball joints are available seperately, about 18.00 each, I agree that replacing the arm is much easier, but they are available ( I have them anyway) Steve Haygood BMW CCA 6 Series Register Automobile Solutions - ----- Original Message ----- From: Neil Deshpande <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, February 16, 2001 4:32 PM Subject: [uuc] Re.: Replacing lower arms on E30 325is > John: > > Some comments: > > 1. BMW does not sell the arms w/o the ball joints. > So, any new arm you buy from either a dealer or Steve > D'Gerolamo will have ball joints. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 22:49:40 -0800 From: Jim Ochi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [uuc] E30 M3 costs At 08:15 PM 2/16/2001 -0800, Jim Powell wrote: >I'm just jealous you have a great car. I would love to go to O'Fest. >Unfortunately I can't really take the 2 weeks off to get there and back in my >car from San Diego. Shoot, Jim - I thought you had a FAST car... :-) Jim Ochi [EMAIL PROTECTED] ------------------------------ End of [uucdigest] V3 #3314 *************************** ________________________________________ | Please visit these UUC-approved BMW parts vendors/service providers: | (listed alphabetically) | Camptown Automotive - http://www.camptownauto.com | Circle Tire Co. (used & classic BMW parts) e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Detailwerks Chicago Inc. 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