Samuel, Nice feedback there. I'm definitely very interested in the Cake project and helping out anyway I can. So as a noob I will definitely report it. And of course this thread is now here for anyone who does a search in the future.
Thanks. On Jan 22, 7:49 pm, "Samuel DeVore" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Jan 22, 2008 5:07 PM, longint <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > Hmm, I don't disagree with your explanation but did everyone who > > installed the latest cake get this? This is a common message? And if > > so I don't see it in the manual (though it's not complete). > > If it is a clean install, I believe that they will get this message. > So yes it's a common message. Why is it not in the manual... Here is > my guess, in order to write the manual you have probably been using > cake for so long that stuff like that just seems obvious. There is a > lot about cake that after a while when you see a question one's first > reaction, "Oh my goodness how could you not know this..." Which is > unfair (I am as guilty of this as anyone), since you are new and don't > have the conventions and expectations around how CakePHP reports stuff > to you and how it tries to help... > > > > > I guess what I'm trying to get at is that (assuming) this is not the > > expected result of an initial cake launch, why would it bark at me? > > Because it is trying to help you, it's just software and it really has > no manners... :) What should you do, here is my suggestion. Go > tohttp://trac.cakephp.org/join and open a ticket on the documentation > about this. Now that you understand what cake is saying to you, > suggest changes to the documentation, because we may not know that it > is a problem. Even a suggestion for the error message to make it > clearer for you as a newbie. Remember that the developers are so far > from the 'newbie experience' that they would probably appreciate > suggestions on how to make the message clearer. But tickets in Trac > are the way to make it known that you would like some more clarity to > the manual or the error messages. > > Make sure you check out thehttp://tempdocs.cakephp.org/ the people > writing it are trying to make it all clear and helpful, but if there > are things missing in many cases they just don't notice and will not > notice unless you help them see the problem. > > Hope that helps and thanks for helping make it all better > > Sam D > > > > > On Jan 22, 6:59pm, Baz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > :) > > > > I can't help but smile because I know what everyone else is thinking: > > > "Just > > > read the error and follow the instructions". But, I also know what you're > > > thinking; you don't know what's going on. You just did a clean install so > > > you shouldn't be getting and "error". > > > > All things aren't obvious to everyone. This is just what I know; I may be > > > missing a huge chunk of the big picture, but here goes: > > -- > (the old fart) the advice is free, the lack of crankiness will cost you > > - its a fine line between a real question and an idiot > > http://blog.samdevore.com/archives/2007/03/05/when-open-source-bugs-me/ --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Cake PHP" group. To post to this group, send email to cake-php@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cake-php?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---