Robert Everland III wrote:
 > We have been doing a lot of flash sites with very minimal
 > HTML content. One of the things we have done is create a
 > text only website so that we can have our sites indexed
 > by search engines. The only issue with doing this is that
 > the search engine indexes the text only site instead of
 > my actual site. I have been toying with the idea of hiding
 > the content inside my page where my flash is so that when
 > a search engine spiders my site I have the plain text
 > version of that site indexed, but when they click on it
 > they are able to go to the site with the flash on it.
 > Has anyone done anything like this or though about doing
 > something like this?

Search Engine Optimization is a funny field, because the targets of 
these tactics (the search engine vendors) not only don't extensively 
document how their engines work (for obvious reasons!) but they also 
regularly adjust their mechanisms.

One approach which seems to help is to reverse the problem -- instead of 
"How can I make sure all search engines know about all the words I 
use?", try "How would I like someone to be able to find this site? What 
search terms will they likely use?"

For a popular search term, like "flowers", you'll likely never get on 
the first page of results for any engine, because of all the flower 
vendors who have created linkfarms and other relationships to get on 
that front page.

But once you identify the key target search terms under which you'd like 
to be found, then your static HTML on the pages which host SWF can use 
the engines' recommended techniques to show that your content is about 
those terms:
http://www.google.com/webmasters/guidelines.html
http://help.yahoo.com/help/us/ysearch/ranking/
http://search.msn.com/docs/siteowner.aspx?t=SEARCH_WEBMASTER_CONC_AboutSiteRanking.htm&FORM=WRDD

(Examples: HTML documents should have titles and URLs which reflect your 
key search targets... use metadata and body text appropriately on these 
keywords... get a good amount of highly-ranked inbound links with 
appropriate anchor text, etc.)

Rephrased, it's rare that you'd have to have the engines know every 
single word you use, because people would not search on filler words, 
and even on relevant words you'd probably be outranked anyway. But if 
you look at the problem backwards -- from the final searcher's point of 
view -- then this reveals those key terms which should be highlighted 
through the usual methods.

(Duplicate text sites sometimes work, but the search engines guard 
against cloaking and other spammer techniques, so such a trick may just 
break one day without warning.)

Good...?

jd




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