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Re: [Chevelle-list] GMPP crate engines

Chuck Speake
Thu, 19 Jun 2008 15:18:47 -0700

I recently installed a 350ci 411hp crate engine from Year One that was made
for them by Hi-Tech out of Salt Lake City and after about thirty miles the
studs around #4 cylinder started to pull out.  I told them to keep it after
Hi-Tech examined it and said there was nothing wrong with it and Year One
did refunded my money and ate the freight to send it back to Hi-Tech who
told me if I did not want it they were going to put it back together and
resell it as a new engine.

I had DRC Performance Transmissions build me an engine which is a 355ci with
TRW pistons, Chevy steel rods, high volume oil pump, Pro-Line aluminum heads
with screw in studs this time, roller cam and roller rockers, double gear
timing chain, air gap manifold and ceramic coated Hooker headers.  We used
my MSD iginition system from my other engine as well as the water pump,
770cfm Holley Street Avenger, and wire looms.  The entire package came out
with removal of the Hi-Tech engine, complete assembly and installation of
the new engine along with a follow up oil change came to around $3,500
compared to the $2,900 (not including the removal of the old engine and
installation of the new) they wanted for the piece of [EMAIL PROTECTED] that 
Hi-Tech
made.

I picked up the car on Thursday night in a suburb of Chicago and drove the
next day to the Wisconsin Dells for a car show and back again in three days.
Then in three weeks I left for and drove over 1,000 miles on the Hot Rod
Power Tour with it and absolutely no problems on either trip.  We are guess
(I haven't had the engine dyo'ed) that the engine is putting out around
430+hp.  I haven't figured out the mileage for the Hot Rod Tour yet, but
coming home from the Wisconsin Dells I got 19 miles to the gallon.  With
that motor I am very happy, decent mileage for a husky motor and it will put
you back in your seat when you jump on it.

I totally agree, find a good shop that you know or can get referred to and
have them make you an engine.  If they are like DRC they will stand behind
the engine if you have a problem as long as you haven't done something
really stupid to it.  I am going to take it back to him next week for a
minor adjustment (running a little rich) and an oil change (I will supply
the oil) and there will be no charge.

If you do go with a crate I would really recommend staying with a GM or only
highly recommended by people you trust custom engine builders.  You do not
want an assembly line engine builder like Hi-Tech.

My 2 cents.  Hope it helps.  Except for a little water and rain one morning
the Power Tour was great!

 

Chuck Speake

1970 Chevelle Malibu

Glen Ellyn, Illinois

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brad Waller
Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2008 1:33 PM
To: 'The Chevelle Mailing List'
Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] GMPP crate engines

 

Do you have any good speed shops in your area?  If so, stop by and chat with
the owner if possible about what you want.  I bet for that same $5K you
could get a 383 or 350 that is just as driveable with more power and maybe
some chrome.  You might not have the warranty, but if they are a good shop
chances are you will not need it.  

 

Way back when I needed an engine for my Chevelle, I was able to get a great
short block from my local shop for about $1,200 that was way better than
anything I could get from a catalog.  It's never needed a warranty, and I
think it's been about 15 years since I put it in. And I've done 1200 mile
road trips with that engine and the only problems I ever had was with the
700R4 transmission on one of them.

 

Any crate engine you get should be able to handle a short road trip of 175
miles unless it is a street/strip engine.

Brad Waller ([EMAIL PROTECTED])

'66 Corvette | 327/dead | 4-speed | Wilwood Brakes | 245/45/16 BFG R1
'67 Chevelle | ex-SS396 | 355/700R4 | F-Body Brakes | 275/40/17 Kumho MX

 

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Ziomek
Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2008 6:20 AM
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Subject: [Chevelle-list] GMPP crate engines

Hi Folks, 

 

I was hoping that some folks out here can shed some light on the GMPP crate
engines. I have decided to stick with a 350 for my 70 Clone and want to use
one of the 'turn key' motors with the serpentine systems already installed.
I'm using a small block because after all of the projects that I undertook
since high school (i'm 42 now!) I finally decided that I wanted a project
car that I can actually drive to where ever I want to go without loading up
the trunk with tools and parts, etc...  Plus now that I have been married
for almost 10 years, and the fact that my wife has 3 gear head brothers and
father, I have been put on notice that she will 'need' to drive this thing
on occasion as well considering where that the funds come from the joint
checking account now.. :)

 

Anyways, I am looking at either the 350/355 or the 350/385 'fast burn' with
the Aluminum heads. The specs on the cam's for these motors suggest a
slightly lopey idle which is what I would want. Has anyone installed or know
of anyone who has installed one of these motor's? Are you/they happy? Is the
performance/reliability everything that was expected? The car will have an
M21 along with a 12bolt with 3.73's. The car will also have to make an
annual run of about 175 each way every summer. The small blocks are
available to me for slightly under $5k delivered to my home via the local
Chev dealer. The primary reason I am sticking with the small block is the
price as even the 454/HO when all is said and done will come in closer to
$10k. The small block turn key motors also allow me to re-use the A/C with
the included compressor as well. You only need to change the 'stock' valve
covers, add a fuel line, and your up and running. 

 

So, any and all info, good or bad, etc  would be very much appreciated. I
want to order one of these next week and get it here for the weekend of July
4th, so at least my fellow gear head family members as well as friends can
drool over it at the picnic we throw on the 4th...

 

Thanks for your info on this. I really appreciate it. 

 

John Z from CT.