Frank Nordberg
Mon, 24 Mar 2008 23:15:14 -0700
Doc Rossi wrote:
Yes, that would be perfect, but did it survive into the 18th century? Could you point me to some evidence?
Doc, I think I already gave you this link but just in case: http://www.studia-instrumentorum.de/MUSEUM/zist_pandora.htmThere are several references to the panodora (it was usually written with a p rather than b in German) during the 18th century there.
Especially intersting in here is perhaps this paragraph:"Am Ende des 17. Jahrhunderts befand sich die Pandora unter den Continuoinstrumenten des Hamburger Opernorchesters (Kleefeld 1899/1900, S. 233ff.), und noch in der ersten Hälfte des 18. Jahrhunderts gehörten zur fürstlichen Hofkapelle in Weißenfels zwei "Kammer-Pandoristen": Pantaleon Hebestreit und Joseph Doberozinsky (Werner 1911, S. 68 und 71)."
Rough translation:At the end of the 17th Century there was a Pandora among the continuo instruments of the Hamburg Opera Orchestra (1899/1900 Kleefeld, p. 233ff.), and as late as the first half of the 18th Century the Court Orchestra at Weißenfels had two "Chamber Pandorists:" Pantaleon Hebestreit and Joseph Doberozinsky (Werner 1911, p. 68 and 71).
One page I overlooked at Michel's site was this: http://www.studia-instrumentorum.de/MUSEUM/zist_pandor_quellen.htmIt's a chronological list of bandora references in Germany. Lots of 18th C. references there - there's even a quote from Mattheson.
And there's a 1737 continuo tutorial (David Kellner) that specifically lists bandora as one of the continuo instruments.
One of the references is to an actual bandora from c. 1750: http://www.studia-instrumentorum.de/MUSEUM/ZISTER/freiberg_0171.htm(Digression: note that this has a floating bridge and a 460 mm scale. Does that remind anybody of any other 18th century instruments?)
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