Frank Nordberg
Thu, 27 Mar 2008 05:11:40 -0700
Martyn Hodgson wrote: > The 18thC Mandora (aka Gallichon - various cognates) was also tuned > in E as well as D.This of course means that the modern guitar tuning was already common - or at least fairly well known - as a lute tuning before it was used for the guitar.
Among other things that gives a whole new perspective to the late 19th/early 20th C. German "Wandervogel-laute." Usually it's been shrugged off as just a silly attempt to give the guitar some fake pedigree by making it look like a lute. Now it turns out a virtually identical instrument existed even as early as the 17th century.
Is there any evidence of such an instrument from he early 19th century?> The large continuo gallichon was tuned in A (ie with first course as the
> top line of the bass clef) so 886 cm is by no means too large. Sorry I misunderstood Barber there. I thought he meant an octave higher. > Despite Barber's statement that the Schorn is the only extant large > galichon in A, there are, in fact, a number of others Is there any evidence that Tielke made such instruments? > The Mandora/Gallichon should, however, not be confused with the 18thC > Italian luteCould you tell us a bit more about the difference? The description you give seems to fit the galichon fairly well.
> My view is that these are, indeed, simply continuations of the old lute > (in nominal G or A depending on local pitch) and played accompanied from > staff notation (like the late archlute of Dalla Casa) but without the > complication (for amatuers) of the extra open basses.I would assume that professionals would also occasionally prefer this more portable alternative to the arhclute and theorbe.
> I'm currently developing a paper on this. Please let us know when and where you publish! Frank Nordberg http://www.musicaviva.com http://stores.ebay.com/Nordbergs-Music-Store?refid=store To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html