Thank you, Gian-Carlo. I couldn't have said it better. Álvaro.
On Wed, Mar 22, 2017 at 7:07 AM, Gian-Carlo Pascutto <g...@sjeng.org> wrote: > On 22-03-17 09:41, Darren Cook wrote: > >> The issue with Japanese rules is easily solved by refusing to play > >> under ridiculous rules. Yes, I do have strong opinions. :) > > > > And the problem with driver-less cars is easily "solved" by banning > > all road users that are not also driver-less cars (including all > > pedestrians, bikes and wild animals). > > I think you misunderstand the sentiment completely. It is not: Japanese > rules are difficult for computers, so we don't like them. > > It is: Japanese rules are problematic on many levels, so we prefer to > work with Chinese ones and as a consequence that's what the programs are > trained for and tested on. It is telling that Zen is having these > troubles despite being made by Japanese programmers. I believe the > saying for this is "voting with your feet". > > > Or how about this angle: humans are still better than the programs > > at Japanese rules. Therefore this is an interesting area of study. > > Maybe some people are interested in studying Japanese rules, like > finding out what they actually are > (http://home.snafu.de/jasiek/j1989c.html). That's fine, but not all that > interesting for AI, or, actually, computer go. > > Of course, commercial programs that need to cater to a Japanese (or > Korean) audience are stuck. As are people that want to play the UEC Cup > etc. > > -- > GCP > _______________________________________________ > Computer-go mailing list > Computer-go@computer-go.org > http://computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go >
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