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RE: Imminence and Texting

Volokh, Eugene
Wed, 03 Feb 2010 15:56:24 -0800

        Seems to me it would be, just as handing an insulting note to someone 
(in a context where he'd be expected to read it right away) might constitute 
fighting words, no?

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> From: conlawprof-boun...@lists.ucla.edu [mailto:conlawprof-
> boun...@lists.ucla.edu] On Behalf Of Michael R. Masinter
> Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 2010 11:15 AM
> To: conlawprof@lists.ucla.edu
> Subject: RE: Imminence and Texting
> 
> I agree with Eugene that the electronic speech that was intended to
> and was likely to incite a smash mob is unprotected speech.
> 
> My students asked a related question concerning the medium of
> expression for fighting words.  Assuming fighting words still
> constitute a category of unprotected speech, conventional
> understanding requires that they be uttered face to face since the
> rationale for excluding them from protected speech is the likelihood
> that they will trigger an immediate emotion driven violent response.
> Under that rationale, it makes no sense to treat traditional written
> communications as fighting words; reason has plenty of time to prevail
> over emotion before the reader responds with violence.  But how should
> fighting words doctrine treat IMs sent to a person with a laptop
> sitting in the adjacent seat in class?  And how about the student who
> is two seats away, or perhaps in the next row, or across the aisle?
> Can written text be fighting words when the writer is within reach of
> the reader when the reader first sees them?
> 
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> 
> Quoting "Volokh, Eugene" <vol...@law.ucla.edu>:
> 
> >     I'd think that if the message is intended to spur imminent lawless
> > action -- say, a tweet to a dispersed group of protesters urging
> > them to start throwing rocks at police -- and is likely to spur such
> >  action, it would be unprotected under Brandenburg.  Twittering is
> > really no different here from in-person speech of the classic
> > speech-in-front-of-the-corn-dealer's-home variety.  Nor is it
> > necessary that imminent lawless action actually occur, so long as it
> >  was intended and likely.
> >
> >     Eugene
> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: conlawprof-boun...@lists.ucla.edu [mailto:conlawprof-
> >> boun...@lists.ucla.edu] On Behalf Of Silverburg, Sanford R
> >> Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 2010 8:59 AM
> >> To: conlawprof@lists.ucla.edu
> >> Subject: Imminence and Texting
> >>
> >> A question arose today in my Con Law class while discussing
> >> Brandenburg, albeit
> >> hypothetical.  Texting and twittering allows for immediate receipt of a
> >> communication via electronic means and can easily include apparent
> >> intent and
> >> specificity.  There is less of a problem in determining the
> >> receiver of the message
> >> than accurately identifying the sender.  Nevertheless, 1) if the
> >> message delivered
> >> does immediately result in the lawless action advocated, and 2) the
> >>  sender of the
> >> message can be identified, would his/her speech be protected under
> >> Brandenburg?
> >>
> >> Sanford Silverburg
> >>
> >> Sanford R. Silverburg, Ph.D
> >> Professor
> >> Department of History and Politics
> >> Catawba College
> >> Salisbury, NC 28144
> >> US
> >> ssil...@catawba.edu
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