Subject: CHEMTRAILS ~ COMMENT/REBUTTAL TO MECHANIC'S STORY -----Original Message----- From: Surfing The Apocalypse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] < Date: Wednesday, 24 May 2000 21:10 RUMOR MILL NEWS AGENCY http://www.rumormillnews.com CHEMTRAILS ~ COMMENT/REBUTTAL TO MECHANIC'S STORY Posted By: RMN Agent 003 Date: Tuesday, 23 May 2000, at 9:10 p.m. http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/config.pl?read=3369 CHEMTRAILS Did An Airline Mechanic Stumble Upon The Truth? 5-17-00 Comment Response To Those Who Claim The Mechanic's Story Is A Hoax >From Craig Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] 5-23-00 As a former airlines mechanic (Western Airlines in Los Angeles), I read the mechanic's letter on the spray gear with interest. I can say with authority that they guy knows airlines maintenance terminology, technics, pecking order, etc. Those who say that it is a complete hoax, or that this guy is a phony, do not know what they are talking about. Especially those who say "I am a commercial pilot, so I know these things are bogus." Being a "commercial pilot" only means one has passed a written test and a flight test for a license above "private pilot." The requirement is 250 hours for fixed wing, and 150 hours for helicopter. I am both a commercial pilot fixed wing (land and sea) and helicopter. I have over 3500 hours, mostly turbine helicopter. I also am an A&P mechanic (airframe and powerplant), and worked at one time on the Boeing airliners for Western Airlines. So I know the terminology and airlines maintenance buisness. Airlines now often hold reciprical agreements to do maintenance on each other's planes at various outlying stations. Here, American Airlines does work on various companies aircraft, and sometimes foreign and military as well. As for having room in the jet for spray gear, I would need to know exactly what type of aircraft the writer is talking about. Any of the larger jets have various places gear can be installed, expecially in the aft baggage compartment. Also, in some, the center fuel tank is not used unless the plane does overseas long distance flights. Here, at American, a large plane was being worked on that belonged to another company and a friend of mine opened up a floor plate during a "heavy check" inspection and found several mysterious black boxes and cable bundles. When he tried to find out what they were he was told to button it up and forget he saw it all. The plane belonged to Evergreen Air (CIA). So anything is possible. As for the static whips, it would be extremely difficult to run tubing down the inside of a wing to such a wingtip location. It would be much easier to just run a line to the fuel dump system and use the onboard systems to discharge chemicals into the atmosphere. One part that bothers me about this story is using civilian companies to do this. Too many leaks are possible for a classified operation. There are plenty of planes in storage, in Marana, Arizona, run by Evergreen, that could be brought into service with contract pilots. This is where I think they are really coming from. Craig Roberts Author: The Medusa File: Crimes and Coverups of the US Government -- Comment >From (Name On File - Confidentiality Requested) 5-22-00 Hate to burst your bubble. As an aircraft mechanic (ALL systems, ALL ATA's) for the past 30 years and a Sr. Maintenance instructor for the past ten years, I have the qualifications to comment on the recent article about chemtrails. It is the article from the "mechanic" and what he "found" on aircraft he "worked" on. #1. The pecking order: We work on what we are told to work on. I have worked on every system on the aircraft, from the Radar to the waste disposal, to the tires. Nobody has EVER told me not to work on a specific aircraft. (I work on mostly B747's, DC10's, MD11's and all the narrow body jets) I have also been a "Tech Rep" with the Air Force and carry a Top Secret Clearance AND a P certification. There is no place on an aircraft I am not permitted to go. #2. The static dischargers. I Have included a drawing of the Static dischargers in use today, on wide body and narrow body jet aircraft. This type of static discharger has been in use since the introduction of jet aircraft. The type described by your "mechanic" was used on propeller driven aircraft. To use the wick type on a jet is just not done. It would be ripped off in the airstream on the first flight. I would like to know how a discharger 1/4" by 1/2" could possibly be drilled out to give enough of an output to show the chemtrails? And if they could be drilled out they would fall apart on takeoff. I am not trying to say that the chemtrails are a fiction, only that the delivery system described is not viable. You will have to do better. A separate connection to the fuel vent pipes would do it, and hide the tanks in the fuel tanks. There are pumps that could be used for this, and you could just pump the tanks full of fuel to get them pressurized. Or you could use a metal bellows pump, like on liquid fueled rockets. You can check on me through my email adress, I have not hidden anything. But please don't pass my name on. Thank you. Sr. Instructor/Developer Aircraft Technical Training BIG AIRCRAFT MANUFACTURER, US. ========================================================================== Rumor Mill News Forum http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/config.pl?read=3373 Double Rebuttal Posted By: Rita Hill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Tuesday, 23 May 2000, at 11:45 p.m. In Response To: CHEMTRAILS ~ COMMENT/REBUTTAL TO MECHANIC'S STORY (RMN Agent 003) The idea of using passenger jets does fit with the idea of some sort of weapons counter measures. Also, I heard the radio show where there seemed to be conflicting reports about what was being dumped, heavy metals or biological waste. Perhaps a valve releases human waste into the discharge mechanism when the tank is empty. Does the mechanic know? SURFING THE APOCALYPSE http://www.surfingtheapocalypse.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Long Distance Relationship? Join beMANY! And pay less each month for Long Distance. http://click.egroups.com/1/4165/9/_/815724/_/959159452/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ SURFING THE APOCALYPSE http://www.surfingtheapocalypse.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/">www.ctrl.org</A> DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER ========== CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substance�not soap-boxing�please! 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