Re: Berachos 053: Havdalah and Women

[Mordecai Kornfeld]

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Re: Berachos 053: Havdalah and Women

Sam Kosofsky asked:

 >> A man says Ata Chonantanu in Maariv of Motzei Shabbos.  By doing so he 
has effectively made a havdala and is allowed to work, drive home from shul 
etc.  Making havdala on a kos with ner and besamim doesn't change that.  <<

The Kollel replied:

 >> There is an obligation to say Havdalah in Davening and also to say it 
over a Kos.  So even though a man says Ata Chonantanu, he still has an 
obligation to say Havdalah over a Kos. <<

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Frank Breslau comments:

Although I don't have it with me, Rav Y. D. Soloveichek Z"L, in his sefer 
Shiurim Lzecher Avi Mori, gave a long shiur on the difference between Atah 
Chonantanu and Havdalah al Hokos.  His differentiation was that the former 
is heter melocha while the latter is a heter achila.  This doesn't begin to 
do his shiur justice.....

Frank Breslau


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