Bava Basra 153: The Behavior of Rava

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Bava Basra 153: The Behavior of Rava
 
ronald gordon <y.ffergi.f...@gmail.com> asked:
 
I am at loss to understand how an Amora of the stature of Rava can have 
attempted to deceive.
 
(a) The Gemorah uses the word 'matrid' which Rashi explains 'lomar lo yafe 
dantoni'.This does not seem to be an intolerable harrassment, too justify Raba 
deceiving her. In any case. as I say above, deceipt is not something we should 
associate with a luminary of the Gemorah.
 
(b) Also,what in fact was the 'onesh' he suffered. Did Raba have a ship, and 
did it sink?
 
(c) And how did 'soaking his clothes' kseem aa realistic way of invalidating 
the curse.
 
If you can help me here, I should be grateful
Ronald Gordon, u.k
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The Kollel replies:
 
(a) As I understood it, Rava held that the woman had no right to the property 
in question. When she didn't want to leave him alone, he had his Talmid fool 
her into thinking that she won the court case, so that she should let him go. I 
don't see anything immoral about that; the Torah even advises to act in such a 
manner (Tehilim 18:27).
 
(b) From Berachos 56a (end of the Amud), it seems that the boat in which Rava 
was traveling indeed sank. Rava was saved miraculously.
 
(c) "Manei" can mean "utensils," not just clothes. If so, perhaps they dunked 
Rava's mixing bowl, also referred to as "Arba" (the same word that the woman 
used for "boat"), as we find in Pesachim 40b on top of the page. By dunking it, 
they wanted to be "Yotzei" the curse, so that it would no longer affect his 
"boat." We find a similar tactic used in Gitin 35a.
 
Best wishes,
Mordecai Kornfeld
Kollel Iyun Hadaf


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