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THE DAFYOMI DISCUSSION LIST brought to you by Kollel Iyun Hadaf of Yerushalayim Rosh Kollel: Rabbi Mordecai Kornfeld [EMAIL PROTECTED] [REPLY TO THIS MESSAGE TO DISCUSS THE DAF WITH THE KOLLEL] ________________________________________________________________ Sources for upkeep of Jewish graves Martin Horwitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> asked: Our organization will be taking a group of Jewish students to Kharkov, Ukraine to work in the Jewish community there for three weeks this summer. One project will be to not only clean up the graveyard,but to play special attention to graves the city is threatening to dig up and transfer because of past neglect. We always do Limmud with our projects. What are some sources on the mitzvah of looking after graves? or any related questions, helping another Jewish community etc. We are willing to follow up if you could help us with some initial sources. A dank faroys, Martin Horwitz, Director Jewish Community Development Fund in Russia and Ukraine 212-273-1642 Martin Horwitz, New York, USA ---------------------------------------------- The Kollel replies: Martin, The Navi considers it a great disgrace to have one's bones removed from their resting places (and mutilated), see Yirmeyahu 8:1, and Melachim II 23:16, and Rashi Shmuel II 21:10, for example. Conversely, granting a proper burial to the dead is considered an act of ultimate kindness, see Rashis to Bereishis 47:29, to Shemos 15:12, to Shmuel II 8:13 and to Melachim I 11:15, for example. These themes are discussed in the Talmud as well. For example, Berachos 8a discusses the ultimate kindness of attaining proper burial, while Yevamos 63b discusses the disgrace of having one's body de-earthed (and the causes thereof). Another common theme in Chazal is the benefit of praying at the gravesites of the expired Tzadikim, see for example Sotah 34a. The following link will lead you to the lengthy and beautiful discussion of the subject by Yosef Da'as on our site: http://www.dafyomi.co.il/sotah/yosefdas/Sota32-49a.pdf (leaf forward to page #133 of the Sefer, if the page numbers appear on bottom). Below please find some material that we sent out in the past regarding the designation of Jewish graveyards. Please let me know if that is not enough. Mordecai Kornfeld Dafyomi Advancement Forum ============== (Please include header and footer when redistributing this material.) _________________________________________________________________ THE DAFYOMI DISCUSSION LIST brought to you by Kollel Iyun Hadaf of Yerushalayim Rosh Kollel: Rabbi Mordecai Kornfeld [EMAIL PROTECTED] [REPLY TO THIS MESSAGE TO DISCUSS THE DAF WITH THE KOLLEL] ________________________________________________________________ Jewish Burial Sharron Moskowitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> asked: I am trying to help a friend establish a Jewish section in his local cemetery so that Jewish people can be buried in that town. He asked me to try to find reliable sources and quotes that would help him explain and document why Jews require separate burial ground and convince his local Cemetery Commission of the importance of this need. Any help would be very much appreciated. Sharron Moskowitz, Vermont, USA ---------------------------------------------- The Kollel replies: It is quite clear from time immemorial that the Jewish people have always tried to keep their families buried together. This can be seen with great clarity in the Talmud, as described in Bava Basra 100b and as codified in the Shulchan Aruch (Code of Jewish Law), section Yoreh De'ah (dealing with ethical law), ch. 366, law 1, where the law is that if one sells a family burial site, the members of the family can annul the sale. This is reiterated in section Choshen Mishpat (dealing with monetary law), ch. 217, law 7. The fact that it is repeated in both places shows that it is a valid principle both from religious and commercial perspectives. The importance of being buried with family is expressed in the Torah (the Bible) itself. See Genesis, chapter 23, 25:9, 47:30, and 49:29, et seq., regarding the burial of the Patriarchs and Matriarchs. This concept also appears in the books of the Prophets in numerous places. See also the words of the Ramban (Nachmonides) to Genesis 23:4. The Jewish community is, of course, considered one large family, and thus it has always been the practice for Jews to be buried together, apart from other peoples. Moreover, in Jewish law separate burial grounds were designated for serious transgressors of the law, so that the wicked should not be buried next to the righteous, as the Talmud teaches in Sanhedrin 46a-47a, and as demonstrated from the Prophets (II Kings ch. 13, regarding the prophet Elisha). See also tractate Moed Katan 17a, which describes the practice to designate different burial caves for righteous men known as "Chasidim" and for righteous men known as "judges." The law as recorded by the Shulchan Aruch (Code of Jewish Law) in section Yoreh De'ah, ch. 362, law 5, is that we do not bury a wicked person next to a righteous person, nor even a more wicked person next to a less wicked person, nor an average, upright person next to a person of exceptional piety. On this basis, the premier commentator, Rabbi Shlomo Yitzchaki (Rashi), in his commentary to Gitin 61a states clearly with regard to the Talmudic teaching that enables us to treat non-Jews in the same manner as Jews in respect to all social welfare matters (including maintenance and support, health and medical assistance, and burial provision) that this does not permit us to bury them in the same burial area as the Jews. Rather, it means that we busy ourselves and deal with their death "together with" our own, i.e. in the same manner that we deal with our own. The other great authorities, the Rashba, Ritva, and Ran -- while differing with Rashi on the meaning of "together with" (Rashi holds "at the same time" and they hold it is to be done separately) -- all agree, however, that they may not be buried in the same burial area. The Ritva makes it clear that this is because we have a higher standard of belief than they do, and thus the principle of burying an extraordinarily righteous person next to a person of less religious commitment applies. A Biblical source for this postmortem separation is to be found in the book of Ezekiel, ch. 39, verse 11: "On that day, I will give Gog a burial site there in Israel...," which implies that although the Jewish people will show abundant mercy and care after the holocaust by even burying the very evildoers who tried to annihilate them (see illuminating commentary here, in English, to Ezekiel, published by ArtScroll Publishers), nonetheless they will be given a separate designated site of their own and not buried in the grounds together with the Jewish people. There are many other sources that teach the importance of treating non-Jews with kindness and dignity, and assisting them in all aspects of loving-kindness. This does not mean, however, that the Jews are to sleep in the same bed as non-Jews or adopt their culture, nor may we be buried together with them. As Rabbi Zev Leff, a foremost rabbinical authority of today, put it, "We are to be insulated, not isolated," from their culture. We similarly set aside a separate area in the cemetery for Jews who desecrated the Shabbos or who rejected the basic tenets of our faith. Persons who committed suicide, too, are buried in a separate area, unless it can be assumed (as is usually the case) that the act was done while the person's balance of mind was disturbed. Although the position is clear from the sources quoted above and from hallowed practice over the course of literally thousands of years, there is nothing directly stated in the Shulchan Aruch regarding the proximity of non-Jewish graves (other than mentioned above). (Perhaps it may not have been politic to write such a law explicitly!) The classic compendia also have little to say on the subject, with the exception of the Kol Bo. The Kol Bo on the laws of death and mourning, by Rabbi Y. Y. Greenwald, states (p. 163), "Where it is possible to acquire their own land but only in the cemetery grounds belonging to members of other religions, the Jewish people should see to it that a fence is erected partitioning them off from the others and even the airspace should not be intermingled (Tuv Ta'am va'Da'as 3:250). If possible, a distance of 8 cubits (approximately 14 feet) should separate our graves from theirs (Minchas Elazar 2:41). At the very least, a distance of 4 cubits (approx. 7 feet) is essential, not including the width of the fence (Hadras Kodesh, p. 34). The cemetery of the Jews should be purchased outright (i.e. a freehold and permanent purchase without recession), so that the Jewish people can rest assured that the peace of their departed will remain undisturbed (Ein Yitzchak, Yoreh De'ah 34)." (For further scholarly discussion on the matter, see Noda b'Yehudah, Mahadura Kama YD 89. See also Alei Tomer to Yerushalmi Gitin 5:9, who writes how much we must endeavor to assist non-Jews in all ways (a concept which is, unfortunately, so commonly misunderstood).) I hope that the foregoing clarifies the Jewish position regarding the place of burial. Rabbi Joseph Pearlman London To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with this text in the body of the message: unsubscribe daf-discuss