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Re: Zevachim 074a: An Isur that falls into the Yam ha'Gadol

>> Raphael Goldmeier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> asked:
The gemara in todays daf uses Yam Hagadol as the example of getting rid of
the issur. Other times the gemara uses Yam Hamelach. Is there a difference
between the 2? Is each one used only in certain instances?
At one point the gemara mentions Yam Hamelach and then the shita switches
the girsa to Yam Hagadol? Is there a difference?
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>> The Kollel replied:
I could not find any examples in which the Mishnah or Beraisa suggest that
one discard an Isur into the "Yam ha'Gadol" to destroy it permanently. The
Gemara always mentions "Yam ha'Melach" (and not "Yam ha'Gadol") when
describing where one is supposed to eliminate prohibited objects.

In our Gemara, however, the Gemara is not telling us what one is *supposed*
to do with a prohibited object. Rather, it is giving a commonplace example
of where a prohibited object will most likely become permanently lost. If
an object falls into an unknown location in the Yam ha'Gadol, it certainly
is not expected to become available for use again in the future. (The
SHITAH MEKUBETZES changes the Girsa from Yam ha'Melach to Yam ha'Gadol for
the sake of consistency throughout the Sugya.) On the other hand, since
there *is* a possibility that the object will later be retrieved by a
person who will not be aware of its prohibited status, the Mishnah and
Beraisa never *advise* us to rid ourselves of such an object in the Yam
ha'Gadol. Rather, one should throw it into the Yam *ha'Melach*. There, no
tides or waves will wash it to the shore, no pearl-divers will accidentally
chance upon it, and after a number of years the object will be totally
eaten away by the salt on the sea bottom.

We ought to point out, though, that there are times when the Mishnah or
Beraisa advises us to throw a prohibited object into a *river*. [See
Insights to Bechoros 53 where we wrote about this, including a
reference to your question of disposing of Isurim in the Yam ha'Gadol.]
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Mark Bergman comments:

The Kollel said:
> The SHITAH MEKUBETZES changes the Girsa from Yam ha'Melach to Yam ha'Gadol

It was suggested in our Shiur that barrels of liquid would float in the Yam
HaMelach but not in the Yam HaGadol, hence the change in Girsa!

Kol Tuv
Mark Bergman

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