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THE DAFYOMI DISCUSSION LIST brought to you by Kollel Iyun Hadaf of Yerushalayim Rosh Kollel: Rabbi Mordecai Kornfeld [EMAIL PROTECTED] [REPLY TO THIS MESSAGE TO DISCUSS THE DAF WITH THE KOLLEL] ________________________________________________________________ Re: Chulin 007: The powers of evil Rabbi Lehrfield wrote: >>By the way, there is also a Ralbag similar to the Or ha'Chaim. He >>explains that the reason that the friends of Daniel (it is too hard for >>me to spell their names in English) were forced to leave the fire and >>that they did not want to leave the fire was because they were afraid >>that Nevuchadnezzer would harm them even though G-d had just save them. >>(I heard the above explanation on a Rabbi Reisman tape) . << Rabbi Lehrfield <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > added later: By the way, it is interesting to look at the Chinuch on this commandment to kill a person engaging in sorcery. He also explains the concept of the power of witchcraft similar to that explained by the nefesh hachaim ; however, when explaining the commandment not to take revenge, he explains that commandment that we should not take revenge because anything that happens is only because G-d decreed it to happen and that the person who harm to you was merely a "messenger". (Apparently, this opinion disagrees with the ohr hachaim) ------- Josh Hoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Rabbi Nachum Spirn, in a small pamphlet entitled "Why Me?' ( published 2002) mentions the Ohr HaChaims oapproach to hashgacha as brought out in his comments about Yosef's brothers throwing him into the pit, and also brings material from R.Moshe Alshich and Netziv who have a similar opinion regarding hashgacha. There is also a Zohar which may support what the Ohr HaChaim says. Rabbi Spirn that this approach is oppposed to the approach of Chovos Halevavos, and he equates R. Bachya'a approach to hashgacha to that of Hasidus in general. However, he does not mention that it was the Besht who saw hashgacha pratis behind every last detail of what happens to a person. There is a lengthy treatment of the Ohr HaChaim's approach in the recently published Beis Ephraim by Rabbi Weinbeg ( not the late Rosh Yeshiva) of Ner Yisroel in Baltiimore, in the volume on the parshiyos, on parshas Vayeishev. Rabbi Zev Leff, in a class to a group of outreach trainees, said that the Ohr HaChaim's approach, although not the mainstream approach- which he identifies with the Chovos Halvavos- could be used in dealing with people troubled over the events of the Holocaust( as I believe Rabbi Benjamin Blech did in what turned out to be a controversial series of articles in the Jewish Press several years ago) . Rabbi Weinberg, in a footnote , writes that we cannot use the Ohr HaChaim --------- Morris Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>On the same topic---Rav Isaac Bernstein,zt"l, also stated on his tape on >>parshat vayeshev that the Ohr Hachaim's concept of bechira is also >>alluded to in the beginning of tachanun --when David Hamelech asks to >>fall into the hands of Hashem and not into human hands<< Shaul Praver <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> comments: sure Hashem is Erech apayim v'malei rachamim. whereas, Kol Adam ke'zev. To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with this text in the body of the message: unsubscribe daf-discuss