Simon Fenton - Jones
Thu, 29 Apr 2010 05:04:17 -0700
John,
I'll just make a quick note on this one peter, as this is not a sociable place. You can get some idea of the usage of social sites by doing a google on "Alexa" and going through their list. It's a very hard world when someone like yourself has done so much work and then the research gets buried with so many others, in the internet "stacks". I'm afraid you won't find any useable social sites in the academic space because, quite honestly, it's so stuck in the past, and not a terribly sociable place. It's just a place inhabited by well intentioned people who only get rewarded for aggregating, publishing or "researching data" about their own professional world, which precludes the need (or want) for any relationships with the outside; most of the time. So well done on your website. But if you want to check out the social scene, ask one of your children grandchildren where (with what) they play. You'll probably find lots of your peers asking many of the same questions, and having the same discussion. All the best, simon From: owner-dcc-associa...@lists.ed.ac.uk [mailto:owner-dcc-associa...@lists.ed.ac.uk] On Behalf Of John F Hall Sent: Monday, 26 April 2010 12:44 PM To: Simon Fenton - Jones; 'Alex Ball'; research-data...@jiscmail.ac.uk; dcc-associates@lists.ed.ac.uk Subject: Re: [dcc-associates] Social media for research data management All this technology is totally new to me. I'm in one such site that get's one posting a month if you're lucky. Does anyone ever check the actual usage of these things? My answer (make of it what you will) has been to set up my own website and upload stuff, some 40+ years old and not widely available if at all, so it's there for posterity if anyone' s interested See http://surveyresearch.weebly.com/ John Hall ----- Original Message ----- From: Simon Fenton - Jones <mailto:simo...@cols.com.au> To: 'Alex Ball' <mailto:a.b...@ukoln.ac.uk> ; research-data...@jiscmail.ac.uk ; dcc-associates@lists.ed.ac.uk Sent: Monday, April 26, 2010 11:58 AM Subject: RE: [dcc-associates] Social media for research data management Dear Alex, We're having the same kind of conversation over at three of terena's taskforces, although it's couched in slightly different terms. As most of our community are engineers who are focussed on the 'interchange' between NREN's (National research and education networks), We're inquiring into, not just the aggregation of information resources, but also into what combination of 'real time' and 'asynchronous' communications might be commonly required by global disciplinary groups. I.e. as opposed to (their) national institutions. Perhaps the best way I might describe this development is to look at dante http://www.dante.net/ as a pan European hub. Our community(ies) are considering what range of facebook type 'services' might be commonly required by European and Global group who share a common research interests. When we talk about 'services' we talk about what combination of wikis, blogs, video - capture, streaming, storage - skype, AV conferencing, etc (open source, social) services these groups might find useful, and might be use to attract and include their globally interested parties. It's a bit like taking on the next step after this one. http://commons.internet2.edu/ Or in your "curation" communities' case, the next step after this one. http://europeana.eu/portal/communities.html You'll have to excuse me if I don't tick your boxes. I'm just not sure just yet who 'our' communities are comprised of. But that's why we are being sociable:) Regards, simon -----Original Message----- From: owner-dcc-associa...@lists.ed.ac.uk [mailto:owner-dcc-associa...@lists.ed.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Alex Ball Sent: Wednesday, 21 April 2010 12:07 PM To: research-data...@jiscmail.ac.uk; dcc-associates@lists.ed.ac.uk Subject: [dcc-associates] Social media for research data management Apologies for cross-posting How do social media platforms help you with research data management issues? At the Digital Curation Centre we are reviewing how we interact with social media beyond our own site at www.dcc.ac.uk. For any of the categories below that you have used, please tell us: * Which platforms do you find valuable for research data issues? * In a few words, what do you get out of using this platform? List of categories * Blogging/microblogging * Online discussion/networking * Sharing (links to) interesting Web resources * Sharing (references to) interesting research papers, etc. It would also help us if you could tell us your interest in research data. Please put an X against any that apply to you. * Researcher * Research Administrator * Research Funder * Data Manager/Curator * Data Centre/Archive/Repository * Library Service Please send responses to a.b...@ukoln.ac.uk rather than the list. We will circulate a summary of the responses ASAP. Cheers, Alex. -- Alex Ball Research Officer UKOLN, University of Bath, UK. BA2 7AY T: +44 1225 383668 F: +44 1225 386256 http://www.ukoln.ac.uk/