Hi Andrew and thanks!

The problem isn't Declude but it is spam related so I'd be interested to see if 
anyone else has ideas.  I spent some time on the SmarterMail forums and this is 
what it looks like:

1. SM uses a series of built-in tests as well as external tests such as 
Declude.  Among these are a pair of URIBL tests that are based on links 
embedded in the messages.
2. SM scores a hit for each bad link reported by URIBL and applies the weight 
score to each hit.  With the default weight of 4, a message with five links 
rejected by URIBL would give a total score of 4 x 5 = 20.
3. Starting some time late 2012, URIBL started rejected some requests based on 
high volume of calls from a particular server.  Various people have experienced 
this problem at various times over the last three months. Once URIBL starts 
rejected the requests then every request gets scored as bad.  So, for example, 
every message with five embedded links gets a weight of 20, regardless of the 
legitimacy of those links.  This results in a sudden inflation of spam scores.
4. I don't understand how our mail server would be subject to this. Our volume 
of mail isn't just small, one might almost call it tiny.  The number of calls 
we make to URIBL are correspondingly very small.
5. The claim made by Those Who Know on the SM forum is that the URIBL rejection 
is really directed at those who use high volume public DNS servers. I'm not 
really sure how URIBL even knows which DNS server I use, but that's the claim.  
Since last year, I have had my SM server configured to use the Comcast national 
DNS servers (Comcast being my upstream provider). Since that's supposed to be 
the problem, I switched to our in-house public DNS server, but that didn't help 
either.  Then I tried setting up a private DNS server on the mail server itself 
and still couldn't get it to work.
6. Then I was told that I need to turn off recursion on the DNS server to be 
considered acceptable to URIBL. Again, I don't know why.  The problem is that I 
use the MS DNS server (Win 2008) and when you turn off recursion, it forced off 
forwarding as well.  There are many good reasons for not wanting to turn off 
forwarding (in fact, MS doesn't recommend it). So now I'm stuck between a rock 
and a hard place.
7. I tried writing to the URIBL abuse administrator but got no response and 
couldn't find any other contact information.

Anyone able to correct or illuminate me?

Thanks,

Ben
  ----- Original Message -----
  From: Colbeck, Andrew
  To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
  Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2013 3:27 PM
  Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] why have spam scores jumped?


  Ben, check the archive website here 
http://www.mail-archive.com/declude.junkmail@declude.com/ for the mail you’ve 
missed.





  Andrew.





  From: SM Admin [mailto:imailad...@bcwebhost.net]
  Sent: Tuesday, March 05, 2013 10:10 PM
  To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
  Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] why have spam scores jumped?



  Thanks for the heads-up, but I didn’t and still don’t see either my original 
email or the responses.  I just took a look at it via the web interface because 
sometime Microsoft Live Mail (like Outlook Express before it) will not show 
some messages where it doesn’t like the header, but I just don’t see either my 
message or the responses. I’m assuming what happened was exactly what I was 
asking about – those messages were given him spam scores and deleted.



  I don’t suppose you could resend those replies to the list?



  Thanks,



  Ben



  From: Randy Armbrecht

  Sent: Tuesday, March 05, 2013 11:12 AM

  To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com

  Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] why have spam scores jumped?



  Your Friday post did show up and already has 2 or 3 responses to it







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  From: SM Admin [mailto:imailad...@bcwebhost.net]
  Sent: Tuesday, March 05, 2013 1:52 PM
  To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
  Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] why have spam scores jumped?



  (I sent this message on Friday but it never showed up, so I thought I’d try 
again.)



  Hi,



  I don't know if anyone is still here but I'd like some insights into some 
strange anti-spam behavior.



  We have latest SmarterMail and Declude, as well as Sniffer. Over the last few 
days I noticed a significant drop in email messages.  Upon further 
investigation, I found that messages were being givn much higher spam scores 
than in the past, with the result that they get classified as spam or just 
outright deleted.  Checking the headers, however, I don't see why the scores 
are coming in so high.  Below are a few examples.  Does anyone see why the spam 
scores come out so high?



  Thanks,



  Ben



  ***********************************************

  X-MessageSniffer-Scan-Result: 0
  X-MessageSniffer-Rules: 0-0-0-2998-c
  X-Declude-Sender: mstad...@ghrlawyers.com [70.89.176.73]
  X-Declude-Spoolname: 195938010.eml
  X-Declude-RefID:
  X-Declude-Note: Scanned by Declude 4.11.00 "http://www.declude.com/x-note.htm";
  X-Declude-Scan: Incoming Score [0] at 17:26:20 on 01 Mar 2013
  X-Declude-Tests: SPFUNKNOWN [1]
  X-Country-Chain: UNITED STATES->destination
  X-Declude-Code: e
  X-HELO: mail.garrettlaw.com
  X-Identity: 70.89.176.73 | mail.garrettlaw.com | ghrlawyers.com
  X-SmarterMail-Spam: SPF_SoftFail, ISpamAssassin 0 [raw: 0], DK_None, 
DKIM_None, URIBL:3, Declude: 0
  X-SmarterMail-TotalSpamWeight: 15

  
*****************************************************************************************

  -MessageSniffer-Scan-Result: 0
  X-MessageSniffer-Rules: 0-0-0-32767-c
  X-Declude-Sender: gha...@ghrlawyers.com [70.89.176.73]
  X-Declude-Spoolname: 159487572.eml
  X-Declude-RefID:
  X-Declude-Note: Scanned by Declude 4.11.00 "http://www.declude.com/x-note.htm";
  X-Declude-Scan: Incoming Score [-3] at 16:38:51 on 01 Mar 2013
  X-Declude-Tests: SPFUNKNOWN [1]
  X-Country-Chain: UNITED STATES->destination
  X-Declude-Code: 1e
  X-HELO: mail.garrettlaw.com
  X-Identity: 70.89.176.73 | mail.ghrlawyers.com | ghrlawyers.com
  X-SmarterMail-Spam: SPF_SoftFail, ISpamAssassin 0 [raw: 0], DK_None, 
DKIM_None, URIBL:7, Declude: -3
  X-SmarterMail-SpamDetail: 0.0 TVD_SUBJ_ACC_NUM
  X-SmarterMail-SpamDetail: 0.0 T_OBFU_PDF_ATTACH
  X-SmarterMail-TotalSpamWeight: 28

  **********************************************************************

  X-MessageSniffer-Scan-Result: 0
  X-MessageSniffer-Rules: 0-0-0-32767-c
  X-Declude-Sender: gha...@ghrlawyers.com [70.89.176.73]
  X-Declude-Spoolname: 159487567.eml
  X-Declude-RefID:
  X-Declude-Note: Scanned by Declude 4.11.00 "http://www.declude.com/x-note.htm";
  X-Declude-Scan: Incoming Score [-3] at 16:35:50 on 01 Mar 2013
  X-Declude-Tests: SPFUNKNOWN [1]
  X-Country-Chain: UNITED STATES->destination
  X-Declude-Code: 1e
  X-HELO: mail.garrettlaw.com
  X-Identity: 70.89.176.73 | mail.ghrlawyers.com | ghrlawyers.com
  X-SmarterMail-Spam: SPF_SoftFail, ISpamAssassin 1 [raw: 1], DK_None, 
DKIM_None, URIBL:10, Declude: -3
  X-SmarterMail-TotalSpamWeight: 41

  ******************************************************************************

  Just for comparison, here is an email from the same source from Tuesday (and 
very typical of past headers):



  X-MessageSniffer-Scan-Result: 0
  X-MessageSniffer-Rules: 0-0-0-27512-c
  X-Declude-Sender: gha...@ghrlawyers.com [70.89.176.73]
  X-Declude-Spoolname: 159486224.eml
  X-Declude-RefID:
  X-Declude-Note: Scanned by Declude 4.11.00 "http://www.declude.com/x-note.htm";
  X-Declude-Scan: Incoming Score [-3] at 17:56:38 on 26 Feb 2013
  X-Declude-Tests: SPFUNKNOWN [1]
  X-Country-Chain: UNITED STATES->destination
  X-Declude-Code: 1e
  X-HELO: mail.garrettlaw.com
  X-Identity: 70.89.176.73 | mail.garrettlaw.com | ghrlawyers.com
  X-SmarterMail-Spam: SPF_SoftFail, ISpamAssassin 5 [raw: 3], DK_None, 
DKIM_None, Declude: -3
  X-SmarterMail-TotalSpamWeight: 5








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