On Mon, Sep 29, 2008 at 6:22 PM, Kito Mann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > That's fine, but I don't really see _anyone_ driving releases :-). What's > the problem with letting Shale Test move somewhere else?
.... > The problem, though, is that Shale Test is part of a project that has > stagnated. So, even if Shale Test moves forward, it's difficult to get > traction if the whole project is perceived as stale. Do you see what I'm > saying? If there are so many people out there who want to help move Shale Test forward, then we would love for them to step up and start contributing. Look at it this way: I use Shale in at least one project at work, so I have a vested interest in it continuing to work. Now a whole bunch of people from Project Foo think Shale needs to move forward and that it can move forward better over at Project Foo. But I've never seen code from the folks at Project Foo. I don't know their attitudes or development styles. I don't know how they work with others. I don't know if they will release it under a license I am comfortable with. How can I agree in good faith to just hand over the management of Shale to Project Foo when I don't know these things? We are commissioned by the ASF to manage the Shale project. You could make a decent argument that we have not done a very good job of managing the project. But we cannot recommend to the ASF in good faith that the best direction for the project is to send it to somebody else who we don't know. So that brings us back to this: If people think Shale Test needs to move forward then I would cordially and sincerely invite them to come join the dev list and start submitting patches. Point me to the patches that have not been responded to. Point me to the questions and requests that are not being answered. When I see that I can begin to give credibility to your argument that Shale would be better managed elsewhere. Just so I am clear: the motive of this post is not to be dramatic or troll or anything like that. I want to see Shale move forward too. If the best thing is for it to move elsewhere, then I will be the first to vote for that. But I can't trust who I don't know. Send those folks over here and let's engage in some discussion and get some stuff done. Thanks, Greg
