Salomao Fresco
Mon, 25 Sep 2006 09:27:24 -0700
Hi Jose Amador has hit the proverbial nail in the head:
"...the world is wider." Monitoring the Beacons since 2003 Best regards Sal CT2IRJ On 9/25/06, Jose A. Amador <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > If the beacons are moved, I am not sure where they would receive less QRM, > if on the low end contending with CW DX or in the high end contending > with the > "family radiotelephones".... > > Something else....OO's only have jurisdiction within the US...the world > is wider. > > So, a well thought solution is in order. I would love it, as the beacons > have been > really useful to me for many years. > > Jose, CO2JA > > Dave Cole (NK7Z/NNN0RDO) wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > While I enjoy the use of the beacons, (and try and stay away from the > > freqs), I agree with the last post, the idea of putting them in the > > middle of the band was not a scaleable, or even a well thought out > > solution. Unless there has been a rule change, enforcement of this > > must be on a voluntary basis, period, I saw a post about involving > > the OOs, and the FCC. Has this frequency been officially allocated? > > If not, then involving an OO would be real abuse of power, as they > > are supposed to enforce rules not wishes. > > > > RANT ON: Assuming the rules have not allocated the frequency for > > beacons, IMHO the entire idea of a "Hall of Shame", goes against the > > amateur traditions of tolerance... Things happen, people will > > transmit on the beacon freq, can't be helped, get used to this, and > > stop publishing "Hall of Shame" like rants. For that is what a "Hall > > of Shame" list is, a vaguely disguised rant because someone > > transmitted on a sacred frequency some other folks "believe" they > > have reserved, and have decided to punish those that don't "believe" > > by publishing their names in a negative light. For that matter, > > perhaps the beacons operators should be the first stations on the > > list for not listening before they transmit, and insisting that they > > own a frequency to the point they are publishing lists of people they > > don't like... > > > > Now don't get me wrong, I love the beacon system, (use it all the > > time), and actually believe that it can work as long as folks don't > > get extreme about things, (like publishing rants because of QRM to > > the beacons), I avoid the beacon frequencies as much as possible, if > > however a really rare DX station is on that frequency, I would use it > > in a moment. The frequency is simply misplaced, pick a new one, then > > get it to the band edge, and half of your QRM will go away. > > > > RANT OFF: > > > > Thanks, Dave NK7Z/NNN0RDO http://www.nk7z.net <http://www.nk7z.net> > > > > If pigs could vote, the man with the slop bucket would be elected > > swineherd every time, no matter how much slaughtering he did on the > > side. --Orson Scott Card > > > > -----Original Message----- From: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com > > <mailto:digitalradio%40yahoogroups.com> > > [mailto:digitalradio@yahoogroups.com > > <mailto:digitalradio%40yahoogroups.com>]On Behalf Of Dav1dSm1th Sent: > > Sunday, September 24, 2006 23:07 To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com > > <mailto:digitalradio%40yahoogroups.com> Subject: [digitalradio] Re: > > RTTY Hall of Shame > > > > Whilst your list can be construed as informative, contentious, > > destructive etc etc depending on your point of view, it really > > highlights the nonsense of trying to maintain a beacon system in the > > middle of a very active band. Whilst education should work, surely > > 95% of the problem could have been avoided if the beacons had been > > located on 14350 or 14000 for instance (plus or minus a bit to avoid > > being outside the band of course). And logically you are much more > > likely to avoid inadvertently transmitting on a beacon if you are > > operating in the same mode as the beacon itself. Putting a CW beacons > > in the middle of a band plan allocated for data is just asking for > > trouble. (I know you can operate CW in this section but no one does - > > especially in the middle of an RTTY contest). > > > > And then again - in the middle of a contest do you need beacons to > > tell you where the propagation is? > > > > 73 > > > > David A92GE > > > > --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com > > <mailto:digitalradio%40yahoogroups.com>, "expeditionradio" > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > RTTY Hall of Shame > > > > > > Here is a list of some of the RTTY operators transmitting on the > > > international IARU beacon frequency 14100.0kHz today. > > > > > > 73---Bonnie KQ6XA > > > > > > Saturday 23 SEP 2006 > > > > > > WM3T/4 (repeat offender) W4VD (repeat offender) N6CK JE2PMC IW5ABF > > > IK1ZFO N6IU EA1DZL JA1GHH DF4ZW DH3JF YU7AM OE9SLH DD1UN F5OQL > > > W5PUF K0GEO > > > > > > The list continues... > > > > > > > __________________________________________ > > XIII Convención Científica de Ingeniería y Arquitectura > 28/noviembre al 1/diciembre de 2006 > Cujae, Ciudad de la Habana, Cuba > http://www.cujae.edu.cu/eventos/convencion > > > Need a Digital mode QSO? Connect to Telnet://cluster.dynalias.org > > Other areas of interest: > > The MixW Reflector : http://groups.yahoo.com/group/themixwgroup/ > DigiPol: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Digipol (band plan policy > discussion) > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > -- Cumprimentos Salomão Fresco CT2IRJ If it works... dont fix it! [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Need a Digital mode QSO? Connect to Telnet://cluster.dynalias.org Other areas of interest: The MixW Reflector : http://groups.yahoo.com/group/themixwgroup/ DigiPol: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Digipol (band plan policy discussion) Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/digitalradio/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/digitalradio/join (Yahoo! 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