On 3/11/2016 6:22 PM, Larry Gusaas <larry.gus...@gmail.com> wrote: > On 2016-03-11, 4:11 PM Tanstaafl wrote: >> On 3/11/2016 4:19 PM, Larry Gusaas <larry.gus...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> No. It is a LibreOffice bug. You broke the usability of LibreOffice >>> on Macs with your code change.
>> *I* broke it? Sorry Larry I'm just a user like you. > It's obvious that "you" on a product mailing list refers to the LibreOffice > developers.Quit > being pedantic. Actually, why don't you stop acting like a spoiled child? >> Libreoffice *fixed* a bug that brought to light a Mac bug. > No. LibreOffice broke it's usability on OS X. If it makes a product for OS X > it should work for > OS X as it currently exists. And every time a new bug crops up in OSX, it is on every other software developer to work around their bugs? > It did not bring to light a Mac bug. The requirement for the older > Apple developed version of Java to be installed has been known for > several years and is mentioned in the installation notes. And it is a BUG - or rather, a very poor Apple workaround for a long standing (meaning may likely never get fixed so deal with it) Java bug. But my understanding is that Apple *could* fix it, they just chose the easiest way, probably because they don't give a crap about Java (just like they ditched Flash support a very long time ago). > By the way, the bug is in Java. The installation of the old Apple > Java is the long-known workaround. The current version broke that > functionality. Correct - so complain to Apple about their crappy workaround, complain to Oracle to fix the JRE, or stfu and just implement the new workaround to install the JDK. > Yeah. Mac users will deal with it. They'll quit using LibreOffice. No, most will just install the JDK and move on. >> The Libreoffice devs finally decided to make a change to their code that >> stops 'working around' Apple's long standing bug (at least thats how I >> read the comments)... > > Actually, it's a bug in Java. I actually knew it was a Java bug, but it is apparently very long standing, which means it may never get fixed. The bug I was referring to above was Apple's BUGGY (lazy) workaround. > You obviously didn't do a lot of research. This is the first time I've seen *you* say it was a Java bug - which begs the question, if you knew it was a Java bug, why are you complaining here? So now it is Libreoffice's responsibility to not only fix Apple bugs (lazy/crappy workarounds) but to fix Oracle JRE bugs as well? >> There is a simple workaround that *you* can employ - install the JDK - >> until Apple fixes *their* JRE package bug. > And that fact is not mentioned in the installation instructions or > in the release note. This is really the only legitimate complaint that you have presented during this entire riduculous thread. > And until the release of 5.1 there was no need to install the JDK. Things/requirements change. > And, unless you are a developer, there is no other need for it. Actually there is - it is now required if you want Libreoffice 5.1+ to recognize Java8 on a Mac because of Apple's longstanding broken JRE packaging and a very long standing bug in Java (or is it just the Java packaging?) itself. > Besides, it takes up a lot more disk space on your computer. Rotflmao! The exact same argument could be made about having to install the old, extremely insecure Java6 just to make Java8 work. > I have my own workaround. Use a different product. Thank god its still a relatively free country. > This bug will create a very negative impression of LibreOffice among Mac > users. That is why I > keep reiterating that LibreOffice needs to fix the problem > > Obviously you don't care about Mac users. Wrong, I just don't care about cry babies who refuse to acknowledge reality, but prefer to cry and threaten to hold their breath if they don't get their way. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: discuss+unsubscr...@documentfoundation.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
