Looking at  this situation when you are on the other side(DX Station),its not 
easy to help everyone with a new one, and there are some hams that have your 
countryon the log and they try to stablish some rag chew when you are calling 
dx !,pile up went crazy ,so you must try to be pollite and keep on going 
specially when there are just 3 persons doing Dx from your country.73 and keep 
up the good work and please enjoy HAM RADIO HR2WW Dan 

> Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2012 20:56:02 -0600
> From: garyk...@wi.rr.com
> To: dx-news@njdxa.org
> CC: ra9ab-m...@mail.ru
> Subject: Re: [DX-NEWS] Best Practices for DXpedition Operating
> 
> Very true Mike,
> 
> The United States is a big place too....too often it's "East Coast" and 
> "West Coast".... forgetting everything in between.  The other problem is 
> that most DX stations always start with "1's".  Living in the 9th 
> district.......
> 
> A month or so ago there was a DX station on from Africa.  He was quite 
> loud in W9.  He was also loud in EU.  He probably had propagation to EU 
> for two or three times the number of hours than to NA.  Both the Midwest 
> and East Coast were calling but couldn't break through the EU pile-up.  
> After quite a while a few East Coast stations made it through.  Then the 
> DX station switched to US call districts...1s,2s,3s,4s.  Of course this 
> made EU ops angry...and the cluster comments started right away.  He 
> didn't work just 5 or 10 per district....he worked each district until 
> there were no stations left in that district.  "Any more 1s......any 
> more 1s?  Please any more 1s?"  He worked 1s for 35 minutes....
> 
> By this time the West Coast was hearing him quite well...it was over 90 
> minutes later.  Of course a few West Coast stations called out of turn.  
> Then it was "standing by for West Coast only".  Another hour elapsed, 
> the pile-up got nasty and by the time he got to 9's and 0's propagation 
> was gone.  Good thing I didn't need him and was occupied doing other 
> things in the shack.
> 
> And of course he never stood by for SA, Caribbean...all of which were 
> copying him too.
> 
> Call districts is a bad idea anyway....work the propagation not the 
> numbers.
> 
> 
> On 12/11/2012 9:20 AM, M.Vasiliev wrote:
> >
> > Hello Benny,
> >
> >
> > Try to imagine our senses here in zones 17-18 when DXped op start to 
> > call EU just after JA (or JA just after EU )...  But UA9-UA0 is not 
> > too small territory with a big numbers of DXers!
> >
> >
> > Europeans shocking! When DX OP start to call "outside of EU" they 
> > usually coming to the DX freq with comments, carriers and so on.
> >
> >
> > Several years ago I got back to the HAM-radio after some years of my 
> > "radio silence" and I was just shocked by behavior of DX-ers in a 
> > pile-ups!
> >
> > Even JA-s are not like some Years before.
> >
> >
> > Seems all World is changed. And not into a better shape. Why the the 
> > HAM-radio must stay the same? :(
> >
> >
> > Mike R9AB
> >
> >
> >
> > Tuesday, December 11, 2012, 8:33:27 PM, you wrote:
> >
> >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > ONE IMPORTANT RULE LEFT OUT.
> >
> >
> > A RECENT DX OP WAS SENDING EU EU EU AT NORTH AMERICA SUNRISE ON 80M CW.
> >
> >
> > THE GREY LINE WORKS FOR DXPEDITIONS TOO.  CALLING FOR EU AT EU SUNRISE 
> > ON 80M CW MAKES A LOT MORE SENSE AND BETTER QSO RATE.
> >
> > 73
> >
> > BENNY K5KV
> >
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Dec 11, 2012 at 7:00 AM, BILL KIRK <wk9...@verizon.net 
> > <mailto:wk9...@verizon.net>> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Hello,
> >
> >
> > I would like to suggest that another "Best Practice" would be to 
> > continue to use the call districts
> >
> >
> > when asking for US stations so as to minimize some of the chaos.
> >
> >
> > Bill, NJ1X
> >
> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > From: ragnar otterstad <la...@yahoo.no <mailto:la...@yahoo.no>>
> >
> > To: DX-EU <dx...@yahoogroups.com <mailto:dx...@yahoogroups.com>>; 
> > [DX-NEWS] <dx-n...@jerseycape.net <mailto:dx-n...@jerseycape.net>>; 
> > "dx-news@njdxa.org <mailto:dx-news@njdxa.org>" <dx-news@njdxa.org 
> > <mailto:dx-news@njdxa.org>>; "d...@dxhf.darc.de 
> > <mailto:d...@dxhf.darc.de>" <d...@dxhf.darc.de 
> > <mailto:d...@dxhf.darc.de>>
> >
> > Cc: dx-chat <dx-c...@njdxa.org <mailto:dx-c...@njdxa.org>>
> >
> > Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2012 6:04 AM
> >
> > Subject: [DX-NEWS] Best Practices for DXpedition Operating
> >
> >
> >
> > Hello,
> >
> > We believe that much of the chaos on the bands during DXpeditions is 
> > caused by the operating tactics of the DXpedition operator – this 
> > leads to poor operating by DX-Chasers, and therefore to chaos. At a 
> > meeting of RSGB, CDXC and GM-DX on October 13th we agreed to 
> > strengthen the ‘DX Code of Conduct’ and to prioritise the DXpedition 
> > side. This has now been completed, thanks to Wayne N7NG and ‘DX 
> > University’, and has been renamed ‘Best Practices for DXpedition 
> > Operating’. Please see:
> >
> > http://www.dxuniversity.com/showpage.php?id=20&title=Best_Practices_for_DXpedition_Operating
> >
> > or go to www.dxuniversity.com <http://www.dxuniversity.com> click on 
> > DXpeditioning Tools, then Basic Practices. Each of the 13 points is 
> > hyper-linked to some explanatory text.
> >
> > We would hope that DX organisations will adopt it as a  condition of 
> > funding. This would hopefully spread to become the normal requirement 
> > for all DXpedition funding: DXpeditions would not only ‘support’ it, 
> > but would also implement it on-air. In this way we expect that chaos 
> > on DX bands can be reduced somewhat whenever a DXpedition is under way.
> >
> > I look forward to seeing your comments,
> >
> > 73 de Roger/G3SXW.
> >
> >
> >
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