Robert Crawley
Wed, 30 Oct 2002 10:30:52 -0800
An easier solution might be to climb up in a water tower in the dead of winter. I think they freeze on top.
Robert Crawley Elite Precision Fabricators, Inc. Programming (936) 449-6823 -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:owner-europa@;klx.com]On Behalf Of Schmidt Mickey Civ 50 ES/CC Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 11:36 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Napkin Drawing My idea of bolting culverts together was assuming we'd use less than 100' of ice. The thick galvanized culverts attach end to end with a broad steel band with matching corrugations (or they used to many years ago.) I would imagine that the "tower of culverts would have to be attached to the side of a building for the height you want, then filled with material for the test. I think it would be wise to support the culverts, against a building or a tower. We should leave a space beneath the bottom culvert to extract the ICEPICK or construct a "door" or access hole in the side of the bottom culvert. Maybe we could work with a corporate sponsor, who has a tall building and a shaded north side of a building we could assemble our ice tower. Being a north side would keep it out of the sun light. Maybe a college instructor with graduate assistants could be coerced into helping. Do we have a College Professor/Instructor in the group? Mickey D. Schmidt, Dir. USAF Academy Planetarium Center for Educational Multimedia USAF Academy, CO 80840 -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:JHByrne@;aol.com] Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2002 4:59 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Napkin Drawing Joe Latrell came up with a napkin drawing for a carboard prototype, of the sort that could be tested in a couple of blocks of ice. This initial prototype (let's call it IcePIC i) has a wire coil internally: is this to play out behind to respresent the transponders, or to help control the model? Really, we could simply use something like an electric hair curler for this demonstration of our prototype. I do have a question about the ice-filled culvert route: how do we add sections to the pipe? A 20' culvert filled with ice and gravel is far too heavy to lift and put another section under it. Funny, that after all this, we're back to calling it IcePIC... however, there's still the issue that Julie raised: do we need to distinguish this working model, from concepts more directly related to the Europa probe? -- John == You are subscribed to the Europa Icepick mailing list: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Project information and list (un)subscribe info: http://klx.com/europa/ == You are subscribed to the Europa Icepick mailing list: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Project information and list (un)subscribe info: http://klx.com/europa/ == You are subscribed to the Europa Icepick mailing list: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Project information and list (un)subscribe info: http://klx.com/europa/