On 2/18/2017 3:14 PM, John Clark wrote:
On Sat, Feb 18, 2017 at 5:07 PM, Brent Meeker <meeke...@verizon.net <mailto:meeke...@verizon.net>>wrote:

    ​> ​
    he
    ​[Einstein] ​
    didn't notice that it was an unstable equilibrium - a very
    elementary mistake.


​I would humbly submit that when trying to figure out what 4-dimensional non-Euclidean
Tensor calculus
​is telling you about physics ​
nothing
​ is very elementary, especially not in 1917.​

    ​> ​
    But the holographic principle can yield a value close the the
    observed.


​How close? In science ​if your theory predicts something that differs from the observed value by a factor of 2 that's generally considered to be pretty damn bad, and we're talking about 10^120. They may have come up with something closer than 10^ 120, but close? I don't think so;at least not unless they worked backward and invented a 120 digit number and inserted it ad hoc into the theory so things come out right.

It's not a matter of working backward; it's discarding the idea that quantum fields zero-point energy fills volumes of space. From Hsu's paper;



Note that Lambda_qm is the value that has been calculated as off by a factor of 1e120. Lambda_0 is a purely geometrical term - Einstein's constant of integration. The current estimate is 1e-12 eV^4. So Hsu is off by two orders of magnitude on the negative energy density.

Brent


But that would be cheating because if you can't get more out of a theory than you put in it has no use, and a 120 digit number is a lot to put in. I don't think we're going to have a good explanation for Dark Energy anytime soon, but I hope I'm wrong.

    ​> ​
    Sean Carroll has considered this in his review article
    https://arxiv.org/abs/astro-ph/0004075v2
    <https://arxiv.org/abs/astro-ph/0004075v2>


​That article is 17 years old, and Dark Energy is as big a mystery now as it was then.

John K Clark​



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