On Fri, Feb 24, 2017 at 1:57 PM, Bruno Marchal <marc...@ulb.ac.be> wrote:
> >> > >> The difference is that the billions of theists on the round thing > > we walk on still use "God" to be the Abrahamic superbeing. > > > > Really? Interesting. Maybe they are right or close to right. T here is no "maybe" about it, when it comes to the meaning of words the majority is *ALWAYS *right, a word know only to you would be utterly useless. If most people decide that the word "circle" means a 3 sided polygon of 180 degrees then geometers are just going to have to change their vocabulary. Language always changes, that's why its hard to understand Shakespeare's plays, and even harder to understand Beowulf . John K Clark > On 23 Feb 2017, at 21:45, Brent Meeker wrote: > > > > On 2/23/2017 6:29 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > > On 22 Feb 2017, at 01:08, Brent Meeker wrote: > > > > On 2/21/2017 11:03 AM, John Mikes wrote: > > Brent: > do you think we are that sure how to identify *intelligence and > consciousness? * > > *Intelligence (inter-lego)* > * I identify from the linguistic origin (Latin) as READING BETWEEN THE > (properly) EXPRESSED FEATURES - *to detect additional sense (maybe hidden > so far). > > > Are you going to Bruno on me and adopt some meaning that a thousand years > out of date. > > > I can't let you say this Brent. I use always the most common terms used by > everybody, except the dogmatic minority. I have hundreds of book on > theology, written mostly by christians and muslims, on neoplatonism, and > they all use the term "theology" and "god" in the greek sense. They don't > even mention that they use the greek sense as it is compeletely natural in > a non-dogmatic context. The restricted sense is the popular, non scientific > sense used by believers in special tradition. > > It is rather incredible, but constant, that the strong-atheists insist so > much on the dogmatic (and pseudo-religious) definitions. In science, all > theories rename all the terms. We change the theories, not the terms, which > would lead to confusion and would hide the progress. You could as well say > that Earth does not exist, because it has meant for many centuries: a flat > thing on which we walk. > > > The difference is that the billions of theists on the round thing we walk > on* still *use "God" to be the Abrahamic superbeing. > > > Really? Interesting. Maybe they are right or close to right. > > Obviously, as scientist, we have to do the math, in our favorite theory to > see if that matches, and of course, I have already point to some > discrepancies with the "God" of the universal machine, much close to > proclus theology (sic) or Plotinus, Moderatus of Gades. > > Nevertheless, note that each main branches of the Abrahamic belief has > kept some sub-branches which basically match that theology (of the > universal classical machine). > > In theology, only the con men could pretend that science has decided > between Plato/Parmenides/Pythagoras and Aristotle. Mocking theology or > philosophy of mind makes people confusing physics and metaphysics/theology. > > Better not lost the spirit of rigor in all domain. The assumption of a > primary physical universe is cool, but might need to be tested with the > (immaterialist) "theology" of the universal number (G, G* and the other > "hypostases"). > > Bruno > > > > > > > > > Brent > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > > http://iridia.ulb.ac.be/~marchal/ > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
