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Re: [FC] Vista Ultimate 64-bit

Jason Meaden
Tue, 01 Jul 2008 02:53:46 -0700

G'day Rainer,
I will retest when I get back to the Vista machine.  I think I
read this somewhere already, and tried the permissions change -
but whilst most other applications (including explorer) will
redirect me to the actual directory, FC still gives a access
denied error message.  I am presuming (since I don't know enough
to know for sure) that whatever the operating system is returning
to FC isn't being handled as designed by the MS bods .. in
fairness, this is new functionality to Vista I guess.
I am going to freshly install the Vista box this weekend (I was
supposed to last weekend .. but I can always think of more
exciting things to do).  I will then start everything from the
beginning and see what results I get.
I don't particularly want to start a debate on the relative
merits of Vista .. enough has been written already I guess.  Just
personally I am struggling to comes to terms with using it, and I
honestly think that this is because all the way from OS/2 through
to Win XP I've relied on FC/2 and then FC/W to make the
differences transparent to me .. and now I've hit a few slight
bumps in the road.
Also, being a 32 bit application in a 64 bit world is having a
few dramas .. which I knew going in, but still catches me out
every now and then.  Like not being able to call a 64-bit
application (am now having to carry 2 x zip.exe and unzip.exe on
the HDD for instance).
Looking forward to a 64-bit version ofin the future! :-)
Regards,
Jason Meaden.
Rainer Scheppelmann wrote:

Hi Jason,



I spent a few days trying to navigate Windows using Explorer .. I even
download and tried DOPUS and some other Windows File Manager (I'm so
ashamed) that I can't remember the name of, but it just wasn't the
same.  Be it ever so humble, there is no place like File Commander.

I am seriously suffering a productivity issue here.  Without FC/W I
have to crawl around Explorer, and it is so uncomfortable that I am
putting off things that I have to do.


This exactly echoes my sentiments!
Probably all of ours, maybe except for the "humble" bit  :)


To the NTFS links problem I can only contribute some
speculation.



Now that I have been co-erced down a path that sees me with Vista
64-bit installed on my machine, I have hit a wall.  FC/W doesn't
appear to follow down LINKS.  For instance, "C:\Documents and
Settings" is no longer a folder, but a link to C:\Users and an attempt
to navigate to it gives me an "Access is denied. (5)" error message.


I just read something I can't verify for the lack of a Vista
machine; according to that blog

- these links are there for backwards compatibilty (old apps with
hardcoded "C:\Documents and Settings" path)

- "everyone" is denied "browse" and "read" rights there, similar
to "System Volume Information" (so despite being only NTFS
links they apparently do have their own access control lists)

- with "hide protected system files" enabled in folder options, the
links themselves are hidden in Explorer

-- the latter two in order not to confuse old apps like "treesize"
so they don't count folders twice or even run in circles.

( Source (in German):
[1]http://blogs.technet.com/dmelanchthon/archive/2006/11/24/kein-
zugriff-auf-verzeichnisse-unter-windows-vista.aspx )


So, all you might need to do is grant yourself browse and read
rights for the links in question.


Rainer



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References

1. http://blogs.technet.com/dmelanchthon/archive/2006/11/24/kein
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3. http://silk.apana.org.au/mailman/listinfo/fc
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