Good luck Sheri. I understand all too well the reluctance to add stress by
syringe feeding, but I think that the “gas in the engine” is also dependent on
getting in those calories. I rely on baby food. I find that it is usually
palatable enough that you can usually syringe a wee bit of it on their lips or
just inside their lips – if they sit or lie down beside you or in your lap (my
preferred position), and they will lick at what is in or on their mouth. I
think this helps to stimulate their appetite. The Winstrol will often also help
improve appetite, strength and a sense of feeling better so that they want to
eat a bit more.
From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Sheri
Sent: April-05-17 3:22 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] New FELV mom
Mo was already on Prednisone so I've just continued that daily while adding on
the Doxy and now the generic Winstrol. My vet gave me an rx for 60 days of the
Winstrol. I hope to run bloodwork again after 30 days. I don't want to check
too soon and unfortunately I think we will find out all too soon if it's not
helping. She did mention his reticulocyte count was nonexistent last week.
I'm currently only able to get him to eat Temptations treats and I put the high
calorie gel on his feet when he hasn't eaten at least 100 calories a day. I was
syringe feeding him for awhile but I don't want to do that unless he won't eat
I'm trying as hard as I can to turn this around for him. I work in healthcare
and am very science minded so the theory behind all of this makes sense. I just
hope he's got enough gas left in the tank for his body to recover.
On Wed, Apr 5, 2017, 1:56 PM Amani Oakley
As you have seen and referenced, some people have had good results with the
Winstrol/Doxy combination, while others have not. In my opinion, it is at least
worth a shot given the very limited alternatives out there. Good that you have
a baseline reading on the blood results – this will allow you to know if he is
moving the right direction on the meds.
10 is a haematocrit value, not the RBCs. 10 is low but my cat (Zander) had
dropped down to 5, and I was able to pull him out of the abyss – first with a
blood transfusion and then with the Winstrol. When I started the Winstrol, it
was after his 2nd blood transfusion, which wasn’t doing more than giving a
temporary fix. He had gone up to a 16 haematocrit after the 2nd transfusion,
but they had had to stop midway through the second bag of blood because he had
had a transfusion reaction and they told me that that was it for being able to
give him any more transfusions. I had watched for two months as his haematocrit
dropped steadily down from 16 to 10, despite trying all sorts of other options
like Interferon and LTCI.
I started him on the Winstrol (he was already on Doxy and Prednisone) and
within a few days, I noticed a pinkening of his ears and gums, and his weekly
blood work showed his haematocrit had gone up to 12. From there, it rose
steadily in ones and twos until it finally got back into the normal reference
range, as did his platelets and white cells, but it took almost 10 months of
treatment and every time I tried to wean him off the Winstrol, his haematocrit
and red cells would fall again.
I suggest you try the meds, (consider adding prednisone or prednisolone as
well), and keep a close eye on his haematology results. Ask for them to run a
reticulocyte count with the haematology panel. This should tell you if he is
producing new red cells or not. Again, with Zander, his reticulocyte count was
basically zero when I started the Winstrol, but it went up almost immediately.
I also found the need to give Zander 1/5 tablet of apometoclompromide to get
the food to go down. I understand that the virus will often affect the GI
tract, including thickening of the intestinal walls, causing food and stool
moves very slowly through the GI tract, thus adding to the cat’s malaise, and
reduced appetite. Also, this slow down allows more problems to develop in the
intestinal walls (with the stool sitting in one spot for a long time). The
apometoclopromide increases peristaltic action in the GI tract, pushing food
down faster. I found this really helped Zander, since he was also vomiting all
the time (including after I would spend an hour getting him to eat or syringe
feeding him baby food). The apometoclopromide is given a little bit before
feeding, and it worked like a charm. Once I started giving it to him, the
vomiting stopped and stool started coming out of him normally.
Sadly, however, the meds haven’t worked for everyone. It could be how advanced
the condition is before the meds are started, and there is also information
online that they have identified a number of strains of the FeLV virus. I
suspect that this might also account for the fact that some of us see a great
improvement in our cats, while others don’t. I’m crossing my fingers for you
and I am very happy that you have a supportive vet. That is often the first big
problem, so thankfully, this isn’t an issue you must also deal with.
On Behalf Of Sheri Burbridge
Sent: April-05-17 1:29 PM
Subject: [Felvtalk] New FELV mom
Hi everyone! I just joined your board today but I have been reading some of
your posts since last week.
About 2 months ago we adopted our first FELV cat Violet. 2 weeks later we also
adopted her brother Mo. They are amazing, sweet, affectionate cats and we love
them so much!
Vi is eating every thing in sight, healthy, happy and very playful but poor Mo
has really struggled. He lost an eye at 4 months old and is only 5.5lbs. He had
a respiratory infection and teeth pulled before he came home with us. The
rescue told us they didn't think he had long to live but wanted him to have a
home if we would take him.
Fast forward 6 weeks and he's been back to their vet twice for tooth roots and
non healing gums and to ours when he was obviously in terrible pain while
eating. She found sores on his palate and ran bloodwork to check for anemia. I
got the bad news last Thurs that he is severely anemic and there is nothing we
can do beyond what we were doing (clavamox, prednisone, buprenorphine) and I
was devastated... until I finally came across your archives in an exhaustive
search on Friday.
First, thank you all for sharing, we would have no hope for sweet Mo if it
weren't for you. I talked to his vet Sat who hadn't heard of using Winstrol.
She agreed to at least switch him to Doxy and research it. I was shocked
Yesterday to get a call from her saying she would prescribe it for me!!
Luckily, she was having the Doxy compound into a liquid for me and after
calling all over, that pharmacy was able to order the Stanozolol. I was able to
add the steroid to our Doxy/Pred that we were already doing.
I just wanted to ask everyone what their experience has been with this. I know
some saw great results, others, not so much. Today Mo was very lethargic and
wouldn't eat in the AM but when I came home at lunch he ate quite a bit (for
His number was 10 last week (I'm not sure if that's just rbc's or not) so I
hope I was able to get him the meds in time.
Thank you again for the info, it's the only thing that has given me hope to
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