It seems to me, each one of us has a different vet - and each vet seems to have 
a differing opinion - it's what they "learned" in school and unless they seek 
to know more and better info continue with the same practices and opinions- 
such as the "yearly" vaccine protocol. I guess it's like each one has to do for 
our own health care - be informed and take charge. And, it's not easy 

Sandy 
----- Original Message -----

From: "Marlene Snowman" <tessie1...@icloud.com> 
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Monday, July 24, 2017 9:46:04 AM 
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] 28 Cats.. 

My vet believes so although has made it clear that no vaccine is 100 percent 
effective and that an older cat with an established immune system has more 
chances. Who really knows.... 

Sent from my iPhone 

> On Jul 24, 2017, at 10:03 AM, Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium 
> <sheila.armstrong-br...@ssa.gov> wrote: 
> 
> So you believe the vaccine does work then? I thought about getting it for all 
> 13 indoors but I want to still keep the FIV and FELV separated. Thanks for 
> the info 
> 
> -----Original Message----- 
> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of 
> Marlene Snowman 
> Sent: Monday, July 24, 2017 8:59 AM 
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] 28 Cats.. 
> 
> I have a Felv 2 year old who I did introduce to my 7 year old non. The 7 year 
> old has been vaccinated and retested over the 2 years and remains negative. 
> The Felv has no visual signs of illness. I maintain separate litter boxes 
> that get cleaned daily and separate dishes that are also cleaned daily. They 
> are not affectionate with one another or groom each other, although they do 
> play together. It warms my heart to think that the 2 year old is getting 
> quality of life despite the illness. As my vet said, you have 2 cats and need 
> this to work for them and my husband and I. So far I've been lucky and I am 
> grateful that this is going well for them. Knowing what I now know, I'm not 
> sure I would make the same decision if one would have been sicker at the 
> onset. 
> 
> My experience and these 2 may just be lucky so far.....wresting with the 
> decision to introduce or not is a tough one. 
> 
> M 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone 
> 
>> On Jul 24, 2017, at 9:12 AM, Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium 
>> <sheila.armstrong-br...@ssa.gov> wrote: 
>> 
>> I heard the leukemia vaccine carries a high risk of cancer. Does anyone have 
>> their FELV cat around non-felv cats? I thought about letting Skylar out only 
>> while I am home and see how it goes with the regular cats. But I have a FIV 
>> cat in the mix of the other cats and not sure if they would pass germs and 
>> cause more harm. My Felv has no signs of illness since he was moved him 
>> indoor. I don't think he can be near the FIV cat. Thanks for any info 
>> 
>> -----Original Message----- 
>> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf 
>> Of ROBERT CHAPEL 
>> Sent: Friday, July 21, 2017 3:52 PM 
>> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
>> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] 28 Cats.. 
>> 
>> Hi Sheila... 
>> Wonder if you have anyone helping you with Cat Care ( or expenses).... 
>> that is a lot of cats to look after 
>> and the expense could get rather overwhelming..... are some of them 
>> fosters??? 
>> 
>> Bob 
>> 
>> 
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>> wrote: 
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>>> Message: 1 
>>> Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2017 09:38:42 -0400 
>>> From: Pam Doore To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
>>> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Checking in..... 
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>>> I understand Sheila! I have my first too, actually Mom and her 
>>> kittens. One kitten passed away.and the other is 15 months old. Plus 
>>> I took another 
>>> FeLv+ cat from out shelter. I will probably end up adopting her too 
>>> :). 
>>> On Jul 21, 2017 8:34 AM, "Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium" < 
>>> sheila.armstrong-br...@ssa.gov> wrote: 
>>> 
>>>> No, he said it was no big deal at all. I just worry. This is my 
>>>> first FELV cat. 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> *From:* Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] *On 
>>>> Behalf Of *Pam Doore 
>>>> *Sent:* Friday, July 21, 2017 8:21 AM 
>>>> *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
>>>> *Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] Checking in..... 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Sheila did your vet seem concerned about the higher cholesterol? 
>>>> 
>>>> On Jul 21, 2017 7:44 AM, "Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium" < 
>>>> sheila.armstrong-br...@ssa.gov> wrote: 
>>>> 
>>>> It was part of a blood panel I had done on him. I get bloodwork 
>>>> every 6 months and I thought it was odd too. 
>>>> 
>>>> -----Original Message----- 
>>>> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On 
>>>> Behalf Of dlg...@windstream.net 
>>>> Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2017 6:57 PM 
>>>> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
>>>> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Checking in..... 
>>>> 
>>>> I have never had anyone tell me my cats needed cholesterol tested. 
>>>> i was beginning to wonder if the list was still there, had not heard 
>>>> anything. 
>>>> 
>>>> ---- Amani Oakley wrote: 
>>>>> It if were me, I would ignore the cholesterol. It is nonsensical in 
>>>>> cats 
>>>> (and being called into question in humans too). 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Amani 
>>>>> 
>>>>> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On 
>>>>> Behalf Of Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium 
>>>>> Sent: July-20-17 10:37 AM 
>>>>> To: 'felvtalk@felineleukemia.org' 
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Checking in..... 
>>>>> 
>>>>> My son Skylar is doing well and his 6 month bloodwork came back 
>>>>> great. 
>>>> High cholesterol is all. No idea why that would be. He is now 2 1/2 
>>>> years old, I hope he is around a long time. 
>>>>> 
>>>>> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On 
>>>>> Behalf Of ROBERT CHAPEL 
>>>>> Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2017 10:28 AM 
>>>>> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
>>>>> Subject: [Felvtalk] Checking in..... 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Things have been very quiet on the group lately...OR... I am once 
>>>>> again 
>>>> not getting group mail.... 
>>>>> Has there been activity I've missed?? 
>>>>> My Hospice Boy ( Gilbert) is doing quite well for the moment but ( 
>>>>> as we 
>>>> all know with such things it could change any minute...so I'll just 
>>>> enjoy 
>>>> it while it's happening).... Wondering if any of you have 
>>>> experience 
>>>> with Higher dose Prednisolone administered chronically ( say above 
>>>> 7.5 mg 
>>>> QD)... When I agreed to Foster Gilbert it came with the proviso 
>>>> that I would follow their directions ( Which I will hold to unless I 
>>>> feel they are killing him unnecessarily quickly) His Tumor does not 
>>>> appear to have gotten any larger and his pain appears to be pretty 
>>>> well controlled.... 
>>>> Just wish I knew specifically what is helping the most so I could 
>>>> cut down on superfluous drugs....currently he's on Gabapentin( .4 cc 
>>>> BID if pain is up.. QD if doing OK).. for pain, prednisolone ( 10 mg 
>>>> QD administered via syringe dissolved in milk, Venus Fly Trap SubQ 
>>>> BID ( interesting substance... bears closer scrutiny... supposed to 
>>>> have anti tumor 
>>>> activity) Two other " alternative " medications ! 
>>>> which I h 
>>>> ave suspended only because the poor boy screams bloody murder every 
>>>> time I have to give him something..... with a tumor invading his 
>>>> oral cavity I want to keep anything PO to a minimum.... 
>>>>> Seems that the cats I've had that are _ supposed_ to ( clincally) 
>>>>> die don't and the ones that that aren't ..do Hope everyones buddies 
>>>>> are 
>>>> doing reasonably well ( as reasonably well as FeLV Kitties can do)... 
>>>> Gilbert, as I mentioned, had a traumatic brain injury which has left 
>>>> him with poor balance... but lately he's been insistent on expanding 
>>>> his range and even tried running this AM... Wasn't in anything 
>>>> resembling a straight line but the spirit in this guy is enough to 
>>>> make you weep... Guess that's part of why I am such a fan of 
>>>> animals.... they simply do what they have to and do it without 
>>>> complaint ( Sure glad they can't speak...perhaps I'd like them less 
>>>> if their inner thoughts were more like ( Why ME?? I'm a more 
>>>> thoughtful caring cat than Mittens over there; why did _ I_ have to 
>>>> get hit by a car and THEN get cancer!!... and there's that jerk 
>>>> Mittens running around all carefree and happy...where's the Justice 
>>>> I ask you!!!!)... 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Bob 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Bob 
>>>>> 
>>>> 
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>>> To: "'felvtalk@felineleukemia.org'" Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Checking 
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>>> I am scared to get him a friend since I have 14 other cats in the 
>>> house. He is alone in a big area of the house. But I am not sure if 
>>> him and another cat would spread germs back and forth. My cat clan 
>>> is up to 28 cats. Insane. 
>>> 
>>> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf 
>>> Of Pam Doore 
>>> Sent: Friday, July 21, 2017 9:39 AM 
>>> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
>>> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Checking in..... 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I understand Sheila! I have my first too, actually Mom and her 
>>> kittens. One kitten passed away.and the other is 15 months old. Plus 
>>> I took another FeLv+ cat from out shelter. I will probably end up 
>>> adopting her too :). 
>>> On Jul 21, 2017 8:34 AM, "Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium" > 
>>> wrote: 
>>> No, he said it was no big deal at all. I just worry. This is my 
>>> first FELV cat. 
>>> 
>>> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf 
>>> Of Pam Doore 
>>> Sent: Friday, July 21, 2017 8:21 AM 
>>> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
>>> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Checking in..... 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sheila did your vet seem concerned about the higher cholesterol? 
>>> On Jul 21, 2017 7:44 AM, "Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium" > 
>>> wrote: 
>>> It was part of a blood panel I had done on him. I get bloodwork 
>>> every 
>>> 6 months and I thought it was odd too. 
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message----- 
>>> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf 
>>> Of dlg...@windstream.net 
>>> Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2017 6:57 PM 
>>> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
>>> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Checking in..... 
>>> 
>>> I have never had anyone tell me my cats needed cholesterol tested. 
>>> i was beginning to wonder if the list was still there, had not heard 
>>> anything. 
>>> 
>>> ---- Amani Oakley > wrote: 
>>>> It if were me, I would ignore the cholesterol. It is nonsensical in 
>>>> cats (and being called into question in humans too). 
>>>> 
>>>> Amani 
>>>> 
>>>> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On 
>>>> Behalf Of Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium 
>>>> Sent: July-20-17 10:37 AM 
>>>> To: 'felvtalk@felineleukemia.org' 
>>>> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Checking in..... 
>>>> 
>>>> My son Skylar is doing well and his 6 month bloodwork came back 
>>>> great. High cholesterol is all. No idea why that would be. He is 
>>>> now 2 1/2 years old, I hope he is around a long time. 
>>>> 
>>>> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On 
>>>> Behalf Of ROBERT CHAPEL 
>>>> Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2017 10:28 AM 
>>>> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org> 
>>>> Subject: [Felvtalk] Checking in..... 
>>>> 
>>>> Things have been very quiet on the group lately...OR... I am once 
>>>> again not getting group mail.... 
>>>> Has there been activity I've missed?? 
>>>> My Hospice Boy ( Gilbert) is doing quite well for the moment but ( 
>>>> as we all know with such things it could change any minute...so I'll 
>>>> just enjoy it while it's happening).... Wondering if any of you 
>>>> have experience with Higher dose Prednisolone administered 
>>>> chronically ( say above 7.5 mg QD)... When I agreed to Foster 
>>>> Gilbert it came with the proviso that I would follow their 
>>>> directions ( Which I will hold to unless I feel they are killing him 
>>>> unnecessarily quickly) His Tumor does not appear to have gotten any 
>>>> larger and his pain appears to be pretty well controlled.... Just 
>>>> wish I knew specifically what is helping the most so I could cut 
>>>> down on superfluous drugs....currently he's on Gabapentin( .4 cc BID 
>>>> if pain is up.. QD if doing OK).. for pain, prednisolone ( 10 mg QD 
>>>> administered via syringe dissolved in milk, Venus Fly Trap SubQ BID 
>>>> ( interesting substance... bears closer scrutiny... supposed to 
>>>> have anti tumor activity) Two other " alternative " medications ! 
>>> which I h 
>>> ave suspended only because the poor boy screams bloody murder every 
>>> time I have to give him something..... with a tumor invading his oral 
>>> cavity I want to keep anything PO to a minimum.... 
>>>> Seems that the cats I've had that are _ supposed_ to ( clincally) 
>>>> die don't and the ones that that aren't ..do Hope everyones buddies 
>>>> are doing reasonably well ( as reasonably well as FeLV Kitties can do)... 
>>>> Gilbert, as I mentioned, had a traumatic brain injury which has left 
>>>> him with poor balance... but lately he's been insistent on expanding 
>>>> his range and even tried running this AM... Wasn't in anything 
>>>> resembling a straight line but the spirit in this guy is enough to 
>>>> make you weep... Guess that's part of why I am such a fan of 
>>>> animals.... they simply do what they have to and do it without 
>>>> complaint ( Sure glad they can't speak...perhaps I'd like them less 
>>>> if their inner thoughts were more like ( Why ME?? I'm a more 
>>>> thoughtful caring cat than Mittens over there; why did _ I_ have to 
>>>> get hit by a car and THEN get cancer!!... and there's that jerk 
>>>> Mittens running around all carefree and happy...where's the Justice 
>>>> I ask you!!!!)... 
>>>> 
>>>> Bob 
>>>> 
>>>> Bob 
>>>> 
>>> 
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