We were sure all sorts of bad things were going to happen after we found out 
that Zander was FeLV+. Not only didn't any of the others contract it, but he 
was very close to several of them and would cuddle and mutually groom each 
other. At first, this made me very anxious and I would separate them, but 
again, as they had been doing this for months BEFORE the FeLV diagnosis, I 
figured if they were going to get the virus, they would have gotten it by then. 
Nothing happened. I had found one kitten, during the time we had Zander, so we 
kept her isolated in a bathroom until we could find a home for her. She was and 
still is just fine. We didn't use any particularly clever method to keep them 
apart - the kitten just stayed in my husband's bathroom until I lined up a home.

Amani

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From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of 
Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium
Sent: July-24-17 2:40 PM
To: 'felvtalk@felineleukemia.org'
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] 28 Cats..

Skylar seems to want to wrestle last time I let him out and I was afraid so I 
let him run and I run behind him.  I guess I could keep doing that and keep him 
away from the FIV one.  I feel so bad for him.  He is alone and he hates the 
dog so he has no one but me.  Thanks for telling me, I will try different 
things.  
-----Original Message-----
From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Amani 
Oakley
Sent: Monday, July 24, 2017 2:37 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] 28 Cats..

Sheila

I had a FeLV positive boy (Zander) for seven years with all my other cats. No 
one else got it. By the time we figured out he was FeLV positive, he had been 
with my other cats for more than a year, so I figured that any harm that was 
going to be done, had already been done. Since then, I have looked into this 
online, and from what I am reading, FeLV cats don't really pass the virus on to 
other adults all that readily, and the main risk is to young kittens. Even 
then, the virus is not a hardy one and doesn't survive long in a cat's 
environment. 

Amani

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From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of 
Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium
Sent: July-24-17 9:04 AM
To: 'felvtalk@felineleukemia.org'
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] 28 Cats..

So you believe the vaccine does work then?  I thought about getting it for all 
13 indoors but I want to still keep the FIV and FELV separated.  Thanks for the 
info 

-----Original Message-----
From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of 
Marlene Snowman
Sent: Monday, July 24, 2017 8:59 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] 28 Cats..

I have a Felv 2 year old who I did introduce to my 7 year old non.  The 7 year 
old has been vaccinated and retested over the 2 years and remains negative. The 
Felv has no visual signs of illness.  I maintain separate litter boxes that get 
cleaned daily and separate dishes that are also cleaned daily. They are not 
affectionate with one another or groom each other, although they do play 
together. It warms my heart to think that the 2 year old is getting quality of 
life despite the illness. As my vet said, you have 2 cats and need this to work 
for them and my husband and I.  So far I've been lucky and I am grateful that 
this is going well for them. Knowing what I now know, I'm not sure I would make 
the same decision if one would have been sicker at the onset.

My experience and these 2 may just be lucky so far.....wresting with the 
decision to introduce or not is a tough one. 

M

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 24, 2017, at 9:12 AM, Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium 
> <sheila.armstrong-br...@ssa.gov> wrote:
> 
> I heard the leukemia  vaccine carries a high risk of cancer.  Does anyone 
> have their FELV cat around non-felv cats?  I thought about letting Skylar out 
> only while I am home and see how it goes with the regular cats.  But I have a 
> FIV cat in the mix of the other cats and not sure if they would pass germs 
> and cause more harm.  My Felv has no signs of illness since he was moved him 
> indoor.    I don't think he can be near the FIV cat.  Thanks for any info 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf 
> Of ROBERT CHAPEL
> Sent: Friday, July 21, 2017 3:52 PM
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] 28 Cats..
> 
> Hi Sheila...
> Wonder if you have anyone helping you with Cat Care ( or expenses).... 
> that is a lot of cats to look after
> and the expense could get rather overwhelming..... are some of them fosters???
> 
> Bob
> 
> 
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>> Message: 1
>> Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2017 09:38:42 -0400
>> From: Pam Doore To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
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>> I understand Sheila! I have my first too, actually Mom and her 
>> kittens. One kitten passed away.and the other is 15 months old. Plus 
>> I took another
>> FeLv+ cat from out shelter. I will probably end up adopting her too
>> :).
>> On Jul 21, 2017 8:34 AM, "Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium" < 
>> sheila.armstrong-br...@ssa.gov> wrote:
>> 
>>> No, he said it was no big deal at all.  I just worry.  This is my 
>>> first FELV cat.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> *From:* Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] *On 
>>> Behalf Of *Pam Doore
>>> *Sent:* Friday, July 21, 2017 8:21 AM
>>> *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
>>> *Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] Checking in.....
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sheila did your vet seem concerned about the higher cholesterol?
>>> 
>>> On Jul 21, 2017 7:44 AM, "Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium" < 
>>> sheila.armstrong-br...@ssa.gov> wrote:
>>> 
>>> It was part of a blood panel I had done on him.  I get bloodwork 
>>> every 6 months and I thought it was odd too.
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On 
>>> Behalf Of dlg...@windstream.net
>>> Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2017 6:57 PM
>>> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
>>> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Checking in.....
>>> 
>>> I have never had anyone tell me my cats needed cholesterol tested.
>>> i was beginning to wonder if the list was still there, had not heard 
>>> anything.
>>> 
>>> ---- Amani Oakley  wrote:
>>>> It if were me, I would ignore the cholesterol. It is nonsensical in 
>>>> cats
>>> (and being called into question in humans too).
>>>> 
>>>> Amani
>>>> 
>>>> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On 
>>>> Behalf Of Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium
>>>> Sent: July-20-17 10:37 AM
>>>> To: 'felvtalk@felineleukemia.org'
>>>> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Checking in.....
>>>> 
>>>> My son Skylar is doing well and his 6 month bloodwork came back 
>>>> great.
>>> High cholesterol is all.  No idea why that would be. He is now 2 1/2 
>>> years old, I hope he is around a long time.
>>>> 
>>>> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On 
>>>> Behalf Of ROBERT CHAPEL
>>>> Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2017 10:28 AM
>>>> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
>>>> Subject: [Felvtalk] Checking in.....
>>>> 
>>>> Things have been very quiet on the group lately...OR... I am once 
>>>> again
>>> not getting group mail....
>>>> Has there been activity I've missed??
>>>> My Hospice Boy ( Gilbert) is doing quite well for the moment but ( 
>>>> as we
>>> all know with such things it could change any minute...so I'll just 
>>> enjoy
>>> it while it's happening)....    Wondering if any of you have 
>>> experience
>>> with Higher dose Prednisolone administered chronically ( say above
>>> 7.5 mg
>>> QD)...  When I agreed to Foster Gilbert it came with the proviso 
>>> that I would follow their directions ( Which I will hold to unless I 
>>> feel they are killing him unnecessarily quickly)  His Tumor does not 
>>> appear to have gotten any larger and his pain appears to be pretty 
>>> well controlled....
>>> Just wish I knew specifically what is helping the most so I could 
>>> cut down on superfluous drugs....currently he's on Gabapentin( .4 cc 
>>> BID if pain is up.. QD if doing OK).. for pain, prednisolone ( 10 mg 
>>> QD administered via syringe dissolved in milk, Venus Fly Trap SubQ 
>>> BID ( interesting substance... bears closer scrutiny...  supposed to 
>>> have anti tumor
>>> activity) Two other " alternative " medications !
>>> which I h
>>> ave suspended only because the poor boy screams bloody murder every 
>>> time I have to give him something..... with a tumor invading his 
>>> oral cavity I want to keep anything PO to a minimum....
>>>> Seems that the cats I've had that are _ supposed_ to ( clincally) 
>>>> die don't and the ones that that aren't ..do Hope everyones buddies 
>>>> are
>>> doing reasonably well ( as reasonably well as FeLV Kitties can do)...
>>> Gilbert, as I mentioned, had a traumatic brain injury which has left 
>>> him with poor balance... but lately he's been insistent on expanding 
>>> his range and even tried running this AM...  Wasn't in anything 
>>> resembling a straight line but the spirit in this guy is enough to 
>>> make you weep...  Guess that's part of why I am such a fan of 
>>> animals.... they simply do what they have to and do it without 
>>> complaint  ( Sure glad they can't speak...perhaps I'd like them less 
>>> if their inner thoughts were more like ( Why ME??  I'm a more 
>>> thoughtful caring cat than Mittens over there; why did _ I_ have to 
>>> get hit by a car and THEN get cancer!!... and there's that jerk 
>>> Mittens running around all carefree and happy...where's the Justice 
>>> I ask you!!!!)...
>>>> 
>>>> Bob
>>>> 
>>>> Bob
>>>> 
>>> 
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>>    
>> To: "'felvtalk@felineleukemia.org'" Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Checking 
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>> I am scared to get him a friend since I have 14 other cats in the 
>> house.  He is alone in a big area of the house.  But I am not sure if
>> him and another cat would spread germs back and forth.   My cat clan 
>> is up to 28 cats.  Insane.
>> 
>> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf 
>> Of Pam Doore
>> Sent: Friday, July 21, 2017 9:39 AM
>> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
>> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Checking in.....
>> 
>> 
>> I understand Sheila! I have my first too, actually Mom and her 
>> kittens. One kitten passed away.and the other is 15 months old. Plus 
>> I took another FeLv+ cat from out shelter. I will probably end up 
>> adopting her too :).
>> On Jul 21, 2017 8:34 AM, "Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium" >
>> wrote:
>> No, he said it was no big deal at all.  I just worry.  This is my 
>> first FELV cat.
>> 
>> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf 
>> Of Pam Doore
>> Sent: Friday, July 21, 2017 8:21 AM
>> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
>> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Checking in.....
>> 
>> 
>> Sheila did your vet seem concerned about the higher cholesterol?
>> On Jul 21, 2017 7:44 AM, "Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium" >
>> wrote:
>> It was part of a blood panel I had done on him.  I get bloodwork 
>> every
>> 6 months and I thought it was odd too.
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf 
>> Of dlg...@windstream.net
>> Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2017 6:57 PM
>> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
>> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Checking in.....
>> 
>> I have never had anyone tell me my cats needed cholesterol tested.
>> i was beginning to wonder if the list was still there, had not heard 
>> anything.
>> 
>> ---- Amani Oakley > wrote:
>>> It if were me, I would ignore the cholesterol. It is nonsensical in 
>>> cats (and being called into question in humans too).
>>> 
>>> Amani
>>> 
>>> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On 
>>> Behalf Of Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium
>>> Sent: July-20-17 10:37 AM
>>> To: 'felvtalk@felineleukemia.org'
>>> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Checking in.....
>>> 
>>> My son Skylar is doing well and his 6 month bloodwork came back 
>>> great.  High cholesterol is all.  No idea why that would be. He is 
>>> now 2 1/2 years old, I hope he is around a long time.
>>> 
>>> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On 
>>> Behalf Of ROBERT CHAPEL
>>> Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2017 10:28 AM
>>> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org>
>>> Subject: [Felvtalk] Checking in.....
>>> 
>>> Things have been very quiet on the group lately...OR... I am once 
>>> again not getting group mail....
>>> Has there been activity I've missed??
>>> My Hospice Boy ( Gilbert) is doing quite well for the moment but ( 
>>> as we all know with such things it could change any minute...so I'll
>>> just enjoy it while it's happening)....    Wondering if any of you 
>>> have experience with Higher dose Prednisolone administered 
>>> chronically ( say above 7.5 mg QD)...  When I agreed to Foster 
>>> Gilbert it came with the proviso that I would follow their 
>>> directions ( Which I will hold to unless I feel they are killing him 
>>> unnecessarily quickly)  His Tumor does not appear to have gotten any 
>>> larger and his pain appears to be pretty well controlled.... Just 
>>> wish I knew specifically what is helping the most so I could cut 
>>> down on superfluous drugs....currently he's on Gabapentin( .4 cc BID 
>>> if pain is up.. QD if doing OK).. for pain, prednisolone ( 10 mg QD 
>>> administered via syringe dissolved in milk, Venus Fly Trap SubQ BID 
>>> ( interesting substance... bears closer scrutiny...  supposed to 
>>> have anti tumor activity) Two other " alternative " medications !
>> which I h
>> ave suspended only because the poor boy screams bloody murder every 
>> time I have to give him something..... with a tumor invading his oral 
>> cavity I want to keep anything PO to a minimum....
>>> Seems that the cats I've had that are _ supposed_ to ( clincally) 
>>> die don't and the ones that that aren't ..do Hope everyones buddies 
>>> are doing reasonably well ( as reasonably well as FeLV Kitties can do)...
>>> Gilbert, as I mentioned, had a traumatic brain injury which has left 
>>> him with poor balance... but lately he's been insistent on expanding 
>>> his range and even tried running this AM...  Wasn't in anything 
>>> resembling a straight line but the spirit in this guy is enough to 
>>> make you weep...  Guess that's part of why I am such a fan of 
>>> animals.... they simply do what they have to and do it without 
>>> complaint  ( Sure glad they can't speak...perhaps I'd like them less 
>>> if their inner thoughts were more like ( Why ME??  I'm a more 
>>> thoughtful caring cat than Mittens over there; why did _ I_ have to 
>>> get hit by a car and THEN get cancer!!... and there's that jerk 
>>> Mittens running around all carefree and happy...where's the Justice 
>>> I ask you!!!!)...
>>> 
>>> Bob
>>> 
>>> Bob
>>> 
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