On Sat 30 June 2007 10:11, Detlef Faber wrote:
> Hello Gerard,
>
> very nice Aircraft indeed
>

> > > > > Woohooo, did anyone try putting this baby into a low-speed stall ?
> > > > > Make sure to gain enough altitude before !
> > > >
> > > > yes it is given to stall at 91 kt, the model with that "crude" FDM
> > > > [...]
> > >
> > > surprised how this beast behaves at stall and how difficult stall
> > > recovery might become ....  It would be nice to know if this is
> > > actually similar to the 'real' one,
> > >
> > >   Martin.
> >
> > Diff   icult to answer,  just this,  which has been written :
> >
> > =>About the only significant short coming of the Lightning was
> > spin/.stall recovery, which could be a bear, especially at low altitude.
> > That's is why this film cautions strongly against entering a spin below
> > 10,000'<=
>
> the manual states:
>
> As stalling speed is approached, the center section stalls first with
> noticeable shaking of the airplane, however, the ailerons remain
> effective.
>
> In either "power-on" or "power-off" stalls with flaps and landing gear
> up, the airplane "mushes" straight forward in a well-controlled stall.
> With flaps and landing gear down, there appears to be a slight tendency
> for one wing to drop. There is, however, no tendency to spin. Under
> these conditions, the nose drops slightly and, as the speed increases,
> the wing will come up.
>
> SPINS.
> Deliberate spinning is prohibited because the spin tends to flatten out
> after two or three turns. When this occurs, the control column is forced
> back and engine power must be used to help get the control column
> forward. Before flattening out, normal recovery may be made without
> power. Recovery is made' by applying full opposite rudder and easing the
> control column forward.
>
> If you don't already have it, I will send it to you.
>
> Greetings
>
> Detlef

Detlef,

Many thanks, and again, i hope you did not loose to much time, you started to 
work on your model.

On my side as i said before, that model was ready some years ago (i just 
included some instruments taken from others recent existing aircraft, theses 
instrument must be improved)
My target was to make a variant, in order to answer an old wish  =>to make the 
St Exupery Aircraft which was the last he had flown, he never came back from 
mission:
 here a link
http://www.flyandrive.com/cadresaintex02.htm  
and that other link  (sorry in French only) 
http://aeroclubstdizier.free.fr/historique_st_ex.htm
today we know i was shot over Marseille.
here the link
http://www.aero-relic.org/English/F-5B_42-68223_St_Exupery/e-00-stexuperyf5b.htm

I will  make that P38 "F-5B" variant (with a pilot who could look like St EX 
face :)  )


I mainly work with the documents, that i have are from paper ( old history 
books aircraft, and specialized magazines, more than 50 years 
collection  :)  ).

I could read that P38 was very difficult to fly, and the victories, when  
fighting ,where due to the main quality high climb speed and altitude 
capability. The low speed manoeuvrability being very difficult.

With Flightgear we can  enjoy  to gather the history acknowledge and these 
specific aircrafts  which where involved in the History.

It would nice to read your manual, so i could learn more on that "wild 
beast" .

On a private mail i will send you my private address mail.

Cheers





> --  
Gérard

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