Andreas Borutta
Fri, 09 Feb 2001 03:44:03 -0800
Gabriel L Romeu wrote:
> Andreas Borutta wrote:
[Basic skills first: sharpening before carving]
> She wasn't wrong. I just spent a couple of hours with a series of
> chisel and plane blades through a 8000 grit water stone. Do you metric
> guys use the same stone designates?
Nice expression "metric guys" :-)
Yes, we metrics use the same classifications in bench stones as you
do.
But I think it is appropiate in this list not to go now into sophisticated
details of sharpening.
Even when obviously it would be great fun. :-)
>> B Use the time to learn and understand _some_ basic skills and build a
>> few things which include some of your own ideas.
>> I only postulate that B is more often (for myself ever) satisfactory
>> than A on the long run.
> If we can agree that 'own ideas' are probably derivative ideas, I will
> agree.
If we can agree[1] that a useful definition for "own idea" could be:
a (sometimes) new mixture of old "elementary particles", I will agree. :-)
(No, seriously: I agree with "own ideas are probably derivative ideas")
But we have just created (no, repeated :-) another problem. Are there
"elemantary particles" of morphology of function of beauty?
I prefer the view of "interbeeing". When you try to divide ideas into
their "elemantary particles" you will reduce the truth.
But of course just reflecting about these things and not to mix it up
with reality is very helpful.
May be "new" is just "new mixture". When I cook I enjoy to do it
without printed recipes. Playing and systematic experiments.
:-) On my wall hangs a long list (it was the result of some of my
thoughts for the real (tm)[2] cooking book) of basic cooking acts and
next to this a list with all the different kind of edibles I know and
wanna get to know. This two sheets of paper are a good inspiration for
me. And my ideal utopian cooking book just contains in very
comprehensive manner the nature of all basic cooking skills. And of
course all the physical and chemical facts. So one could derive easier
... and mix. It also means less but more focused own experiments.
> (my partner does all the surface design, I design the piece and make it)
Sounds interesting the area where you work at (on, in, with?).
> I am in for a lot of repetitive work with no new problems to
> solve.
I have the same experience.
> Almost building from plans though they are my own.
Yes, it is usually an interplay of short "creative" phases and longer
repetitive work.
Do you remind the passages in the books of James Krenov where he
discribes his way of building furniture. His manner is a kind of
iterative.
> The problem is that most of the do-it-yourself projects here are usually
> pretty poor design.
ACK. Here, too.
(You asked about the meaning of this akronym: ACKnowledge)
>> An other aspect is the strong "bondage to experts" in our time.
>> In other words: "better listen to and trust on an expert than make
>> your own experience". Even in things which are simple to reveal
>> without a particle accelerator.
>
> sometimes this is good in an instructional setting.
Hhm, I do not understand what you want to say.
> We discover a lot just by using the tools.
Yes, that is really true.
And also it deepens the relationship to your tools when you
"personalize" them. Let them be your "instrument" as Krenov would say.
Listen to the sound when it's playing the melody (the wood).
>> Or a complete foldingboat frame bent and knoted forming a sculpture
>> (just for your friends) showing what the elemental force of wild water
>> may do with a frame kayak.
>
> heheheh. Actually, I build my furniture using a torsion based
> construction (like bridges) from aluminum. I am planning to incorporate
> this into the construction of my folder.
Please inform us about the progress.
> A good example of my premise,
> Something used in other disciplines applied to the folding boat. Maybe
> innovative, but not created from nothing.
A well spiced meal. And you are the cook. Mixing what you learned
elsewhere.
[Autodidactic way of learning]
> Took far longer than would have done with instruction. Still
> don't know if I do things the most expedient way.
The same goes for me. I study environmental protection but I must
work with my hands also to be happy. So I job around as a "woodworker".
And as a guide for kayaking and canoeing for pupils of 11 to 16. Very
near to Berlin we have the wonderful "Mecklenburger Seenplatte" an
extensive lake district just an hour with the train.
>> Also extraordinary well made textbooks I found like e. g.
>> Bruce Hoadley. Understanding wood.Taunton Press.
>> Tage Frid. Tage Frid teaches woodworking. Taunton Press
>
> This is another whose slides lie on my table for scanning.
Incredible.
>> Leonard Lee. The complete guide to sharpening. Taunton Press.
>
> I just got the new Fine Woodworking magazine with big articles on Tage
> Frid and James Krenov, Thought of you Andrea.
Please give my masculinity back to me :-))
The little difference is the "s".
> You want me to send you a copy?
That would be really nice! Thank you for this offer.
I would appreciate it a lot to read about and from my "gurus".
> Do you have any photos of your furniture?
No, I haven't. May be one of a bed made of the old planks I rescued
of a house short before demolition.
It was a house standing in range of vision to checkpoint charly, a
border crossing point of the wall of that time in Berlin.
I really love it to re-use old material. When I'm passing interesting
"rubbish" it itches in my hands (hope you have a similar idiomatic
expression :-).
Regards, Andreas
[1] Frankly speaking: I have no chance against a studied
philosoph:-)[3]
[2] (tm) for "one and only truth" in an ironic sense
[3] These new little footnotes were specially for you Ralf :-)
BTW, the tool which manages footnotes calls KorrNews and
it works together with Hamster, a local server.
Both Freeware you could find on http://home.knuut.de/tgl/
Usenet groups for this are "hamster.de.*" or "hamster.en.*".
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