Jochen Fromm
Thu, 11 Mar 2010 13:44:19 -0800
"some pioneers in psychological theory, with natural overconfidence, formerly tried to hitch on to the notion of pleasure. Thinking of their scientific mission as that of duplicating for the world of mind what physicists had done for the world of matter, they looked for mental counterparts to the forcesin terms of which dynamic explanations were given of the movement of bodies. Which introspectible
phenomena would do for purposive human conduct what pressure, impact, friction and attraction do for the accelerations and decelerations of physicalobjects? Desire and pleasure, aversion and pain seemd admirably qualified to play the required parts [...]"
"the notion of pleasure has in our own day ceased to be the topic of heated controversies - though not, in my opinion, for the reason that philosophers, preachers, psychologists, economists and educators have at last got its logical role agreed. They have, I guess, dropped the subject, because the nineteenth- century thinkers ran it to death."Unfortunately he does not name any references. What pioneers and 19th century thinkers has Ryle in mind ?
William James ? Herbert Spencer ? Sigmund Freud and his "pleasure principle" ? -J. ============================================================ FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org