Glen,
In Smalltalk and Objective C "self" is an alias for any receiver object from the point of view of that object. E.g. if someone tells me to "jump" I can implement that by sending them a "howHigh" message, or I can send that message to my(self)! self is a handle to the stuff in me, especially the methods I implement. Different people have different stuff. Some folks mix-in methods they model in others and some do not. Others can't imagine doing mix-ins and only can get their head around inheritance. (Very tribal are they!) Some full stop when they see objects they don't understand. Others just send crap to each other all day. Marcus ________________________________ From: Friam <friam-boun...@redfish.com> on behalf of glen ☣ <geprope...@gmail.com> Sent: Monday, August 7, 2017 12:24:57 PM To: friam@redfish.com Subject: [FRIAM] the self So, I read this the other day: The Promise of LSD Microdoses and Other Psychedelic "Medicines" https://blogs.scientificamerican.com/cross-check/the-promise-of-lsd-microdoses-and-other-psychedelic-medicines/ [https://blogs.scientificamerican.com/blogs/cache/file/D97B3C3F-60D7-46B0-B8145A7209E77CF1.jpg?w=590&h=140&5143B4FE-1259-443A-83724BE6A85B2EBB]<https://blogs.scientificamerican.com/cross-check/the-promise-of-lsd-microdoses-and-other-psychedelic-medicines/> The Promise of LSD Microdoses and Other Psychedelic ...<https://blogs.scientificamerican.com/cross-check/the-promise-of-lsd-microdoses-and-other-psychedelic-medicines/> blogs.scientificamerican.com The Promise of LSD Microdoses and Other Psychedelic "Medicines" Psychiatrist John Halpern discusses the psychotherapeutic potential of peyote, ayahuasca, psilocybin ... and was reminded of Frank's dare to read: The Analysis of the Self http://press.uchicago.edu/ucp/books/book/chicago/A/bo8324792.html [http://tmm.chicagodistributioncenter.com/IsbnImages/9780226450124.jpg]<http://press.uchicago.edu/ucp/books/book/chicago/A/bo8324792.html> The Analysis of the Self: A Systematic Approach to the ...<http://press.uchicago.edu/ucp/books/book/chicago/A/bo8324792.html> press.uchicago.edu The book The Analysis of the Self: A Systematic Approach to the Psychoanalytic Treatment of Narcissistic Personality Disorders, Heinz Kohut is published by University ... I subsequently forgot about it all. But then this popped up: The Dangerous Delusions of Richard Dawkins http://www.alternet.org/belief/dangerous-delusions-richard-dawkins [http://www.alternet.org/sites/default/files/styles/story_image/public/story_images/shutterstock_160874303-edited.jpg?itok=hlCQ3cSC]<http://www.alternet.org/belief/dangerous-delusions-richard-dawkins> The Dangerous Delusions of Richard Dawkins | Alternet<http://www.alternet.org/belief/dangerous-delusions-richard-dawkins> www.alternet.org His rationalist crusade creates a false impression that the only alternative to religion is reductionist science. The recent cancellation of a book event with Richard ... and: Predictably, Salon publishes a new Dawkins hit piece, and it’s as dreadful as you’d expect https://whyevolutionistrue.wordpress.com/2017/08/07/predictably-salon-publishes-a-new-dawkins-hit-piece-and-its-as-dreadful-as-youd-expect/ [https://secure.gravatar.com/blavatar/275a941f238847ec6ac2ac1812b88f9f?s=200&ts=1502142386]<https://whyevolutionistrue.wordpress.com/2017/08/07/predictably-salon-publishes-a-new-dawkins-hit-piece-and-its-as-dreadful-as-youd-expect/> Predictably, Salon publishes a new Dawkins hit piece, and it’s as dreadful as you’d expect<https://whyevolutionistrue.wordpress.com/2017/08/07/predictably-salon-publishes-a-new-dawkins-hit-piece-and-its-as-dreadful-as-youd-expect/> whyevolutionistrue.wordpress.com Believe me, the last thing I want to do this morning is sit down and take apart another dumb article holding Richard Dawkins responsible for all the world’s wrongs. I saw this article a few … I still feel (over 2 decades after making a fool of myself during a lunch at the SFI) that the concept of "self" is the most abused concept of humanity's entire existence. Everyone uses it so often and in so many ways that it's pert near meaningless, to someone like me, anyway. What's amazing to me is that everyone can go along on their happy pretense that they've communicated something when they speak/write or hear/read the word. It reminded me again of the appeal (to me) of Hoffman's Interface Theory: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oYp5XuGYqqY Do we see reality as it is? | Donald Hoffman<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oYp5XuGYqqY> www.youtube.com Cognitive scientist Donald Hoffman is trying to answer a big question: Do we experience the world as it really is ... or as we need it to be? In this ever so slightly ... Anyway, I have no point. 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