At 6:07 PM +0000 2002/03/22, Keith Hudson wrote:
>At 08:52 22/03/02 -0500, Brian wrote:
>  >Hi Keith,
>>And the cause of this 'natural warming' of 1000 years ago could have
>>been massive droughts causing massive forest fires (a lot more
>>forests back then) greatly increasing the greenhouse gases.

Keith:

>Could be. But it's unlikely. When climatologists talk of warm periods they
>are talking of decades at least, usually centuries. It's unlikely,
>statistically, that there'd have been continuous forest fires all through
>the Medieval Warm Period. There'd have been no forests left!
>
>My house stands on what used to be a Roman vineyard during a previous warm
>period when the climate of southern England was more like the Mediterranean
>being several degrees Centigrade warmer. I think this was a mini-warm
>period and only lasted a couple of centuries (until 300AD).

Are you deliberately avoiding  my point Keith by questioning my 
example. How about this: an earthquake or asteroid caused a 
significant steady leakage of methane or natural gas that ignited and 
burned for a long time and caused increased levels of green house 
gases? Do you believe that large levels of greenhouse gases may have 
caused global warming then? And what about now?


At 6:07 PM +0000 2002/03/22, Keith Hudson wrote:
>My apologies for not commenting on those postings. I much enjoyed 'Mud,
>Brawn and Brain' and the obvious skill of the bricklayer's labourer when a
>bricklayer is in full spate.  I can attest to the skills involved, having
>mixed mortar (called "muck" over here) for the laying of 10,500 bricks
>during a period when I was a young man building a small house for my
>family. Though whether I was as skilled as the labourer mentioned in your
>article is doubtful, 'cos the bricklayer concerned was also me and was none
>too quick -- in fact, pathetically slow. (One trick your writer missed was
>the addition of a dash of washing-up liquid to the mix -- it produces
>beautiful muck which spreads like warm butter from the trowel. If you
>haven't laid bricks in this way you haven't lived!)



  You don't seem to want to stay in the 'concrete'  with me Keith;but 
rather jump back to the abstract concept of IQ which takes us 
nowhere. I would suggest you read Jane Wagner's "Searching for Signs 
of Intelligent Life in the Universe" or see the play if it happens to 
be playing in a theatre near you. Lily Tomlin played the narrator 
Trudy, the 'mad' bag lady, in the Broadway production.



At 6:07 PM +0000 2002/03/22, Brian wrote:
>  >I also found your recent rant about the 'whole language'approach to
>>reading highly paradoxical. It came shortly after you and Harry raved
>>about some very treasured pulp fiction you both read as youths.



>Keith replied
>Is there not a teeny-weeny bit of prejudice in the above? The ScFi writer,
>Brian Aldiss, whose name I forgot in my recent posting to Harry, wrote lots
>of "pulp fiction" in his early days for those gory magazines. But he's
>acknowledged to be one of the finest writers of our day. Have you read his
>autobiography?  Much to be recommended.
>
>(BMcA)
>>Whole
>>language advocates would have made use of your enthusiastic response
>>to these materials to take you more deeply into reading. For example
>>they may have asked you to critically examine who the heroes were and
>>who the villains were. Was there any propaganda lurking in those
>>texts? There certainly was in the Superman and Batman comics I
>>devoured in the 1950s.


Keith:
>Good gracious! You read Superman and Batman comics and yet turned your nose
>up at "pulp fiction"?  Remarkable! I never read 'em m'self. For me, was
>text-only stuff like the Wizard, Rover, and Adventure that Harry and I
>mentioned some while back.


You completely missed my point here Keith. I used 'pulp fiction' 
partly because of the powerful film by that name and also because I 
loved it as a kid. Stephen King has been described as a pulp fiction 
writer by some high brows. He a has a wonderful little nonfiction 
book out called 'On Writing'. He writes about all the pulp fiction he 
read as a kid that inspired him to write.
My point is that whole language teachers use the stuff that kids love 
to read; Harry Potter is a perfect example. Have you read any? Beats 
the hell out of the phonics structured "See Dick kick Spot" stuff.
I remember trying to get a Grade 5 student's mother to see the value 
in her son reading 4 books from C. S. Lewis' Narnia series rather 
than the first 80 pages of a basal reader. Amazing, eh?
I much prefer the swampy world of 30 years of practice rather than 
the high hard ground of abstraction that you read about in the 
Telegraph or FT regarding education.
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