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RE: On unity and coherence [was Re: [Request For Comment] POI @apache]

Paulo Gaspar
Sun, 06 Jan 2002 11:55:06 -0800

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Geir Magnusson Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2002 6:55 PM
>
>
> On 1/6/02 12:58 PM, "Paulo Gaspar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> ...
>
> If you start at the top of the thread, I declare I am playing devils'
> advocate, and addressing the three URLs that andrew gave.

The Devil's advocate gets flamed as any other one or more, didn't you
know?
=;o)

> I don't think it "should" be used for anything - that's up to the
> users and I would never try to make an assertion to that end.

YYYEEEESSSSsssss!!!


> To give you the benefit of the doubt that I wasn't clear, change
> "would be" to "currently is" as that is what I meant.
>
> The dissonance that struck me was between the thing that makes
> POI different
> - the ability to write xls files - and what I read to be the most
> common use
> - reading xls for serverside presentation and indexing.
>
> I'm just trying to figure this out.

I also got surprised by that one but is was exactly what made me
realize how much "server side" (here we go again) it was.

It looks like our POVs on this are being heavily influenced by our
current work experience and needs... which are different.


> ...
>
> The fact that Velocity can generate HTML doesn't make it special.

Yes, it is the HOW that is quite especial!
=:o)


>>>> ...
>>>>
>>>> Are there many uses for writing Word/Excel documents in a client-side
>>>> device that has not Word or Excel installed???
>>>
>>> You might find this unbelieveable, but not everyone works on a
>>> computer that runs an operating system that has Word or Excel available.
>>
>> And is there many people NOT having Word or Excel installed that care
about
>> writing Word and Excel documents in a CLIENT device???
>
> YES.  Anyone who uses Linux is an example. (sorry, I've found open-office
> and gnumeric don't really cut it...)

But POI is no replacement for that.

You just add to the argument that there is not much use for writing a
Word/Excel document in a client device without Word/Excel... in the way
that POI does.

The use for POI is to write the doc in a server to send the document to a
client that has Word/Excel or some future version of OpenOffice.
=;o)


This is not about POI being "server side" or "client side" in terms of
being acceptable for Jakarta. I think that we already cleared that side
(its too subjective and up to the users.)

This is just about POI usefulness.


> However, of course that I want to write such formats on a SERVER device
> without any MS stuff (Linux), so that clients WITH MS software installed
> can read them.
>
> ...

Have fun,
Paulo Gaspar


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