RE: [gentoo-dev] creating ebuilds

[Allen Parker]

> On Mon, Jan 05, 2004 at 11:05:45PM -0800, Robert Cole wrote:
> > I would like to start creating ebuilds for products and maintaining them
> but
> > I'm a little concerned that my contributions won't be accepted. Will I
> be
> > wasting my time asking to be a maintainer for a couple of ebuilds I
> create
> > and get them in the tree?
> >
> 
> Generally, when someone asks, my response is an automatic no.
> 
> Prove yourself and you'll be picked up as a dev.
Sorry, this seems a bit elitist. :(
> 
> --
> Jon Portnoy
> avenj/irc.freenode.net

Avenj, as I recently was interested in submitting ebuilds myself. Could we
possibly come up with a quick and easy system for devs to pop in, check a
list of submitted ebuilds, grab ones that look interesting to them, test to
see if they build/self-destruct, mark them as ~ARCH (for ARCH they can test
on), either clear the initial listing and slap them into the tree or kick it
back to the user?

Personally, I found it to be a pain in the rear to see 1 1/2 yr old ebuilds
relating to the packages I was developing ebuilds for in bugzilla, yet with
information so stale as to be stinking the place up. I think that there are
a lot of things that could be offered to Gentoo users without too much
hassle by other Gentoo users as long as dev says "ok, that sounds fun." I
mean, I got passed back and forth from hardened to general and back a few
times and it was all because the devs reviewing my bug(s) didn't understand
the packages.

I may not know C/C++ very well (minimal understanding at most), so I
wouldn't be able to "fix" something that was broken via diff, but I sure as
heck have the computing power to do 100s of compiles :-D and thoroughly test
certain things before I put them live on my OWN production machines.
Basically, I'm not a programmer, but I can *still* write a darned good
ebuild with the proper help (thx Spyderous, obz and others in #gentoo-dev).
Simply because I can't program, I can't be a dev... does that mean I can't
do thorough package mangling/testing? Not really... In fact, I've been told,
that with most things, if anyone can break it, I can :-D

Basically, I just find that the entire ebuild submission process could
definitely be streamlined as to take less dev time and be more rewarding for
the users actually doing the submissions. Including having user response
saying, "hey, so and so just bumped package-x.y.y to package-x.y.z and it
builds fine with a renamed and digested ebuild."

That's my 2/100ths of a monetary unit.
Allen Parker
infowolfe on irc.freenode.net


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