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Re: [gentoo-dev] creating ebuilds

Robert Cole
Tue, 06 Jan 2004 01:43:22 -0800

On Mon January 05 2004 11:55 pm, Jon Portnoy wrote:
> Okay, let me explain a little bit about how the recruitment process
> works.

I like it. That's a very good process. I'm talking about ebuilds here. I'll be 
honest and say I don't know how the backend of the portage tree works with 
security and all but maybe another tier would be in order if possible. Like a 
low access new ebuild access that gets queued and not actually put in the 
tree and someone with access could simply flag it to move into the tree or 
reject it sending an email back to the creator of the ebuild why.

Would simplify getting things in greatly. Then again such a process may 
already exist I don't know. If it does exist it doesn't "appear" to be in 
use. I say "appear" because it doesn't look that way to me but I don't see 
the whole picture. I get the frontend of portage only and I see apps sit for 
a year or more in bugs.gentoo.org.

> You would be cautious too if there were an estimated quarter of a
> million systems at stake.

Those systems aren't yours or any other gentoo devs responsibility. I think if 
most gentoo users/admins would really really think about it they know the 
risks they took when they started using gentoo. It's bleeding edge using 
ACCEPT_KEYWORDS or not. I understand, and if every gentoo user would really 
be honest with themselves, that my system could go POOF on the next world 
update. I know mine has a few times in the earlier days of gentoo. That's 
life on the bleeding edge.

New ebuilds are normally put in the testing area anyhow and if someone has a 
system they really care about and have ACCEPT_KEYWORDS set and merge that new 
package and it toasts their system then that's just a bummer ain't it? 
Seriously who's at fault? Besides I've seen people moan about the loss of 
their system now again but I don't recall anyone placing blame with the devs 
but maybe I missed that.

> Does any of this mean that people are shut out from contributing? Not at
> all.

Good enough for me I'll get to work on a few awesome packages that would make 
a nice edition to the tree and see what happens dispite many packages that 
currently sit in bugs.gentoo.org. Maybe they just need a maintainer and 
tester. I'll start with those. Prolly ACID first. Got a portage bug to report 
first.

Robert

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