Re: CentOS vs Unbuntu desktop

[Susan Cragin]

I run Debian LXDE which is fast. And I have eliminated syslog and pulseaudio. 

FWIW.

-----Original Message-----
From: Tom Buskey
Sent: Sep 9, 2016 1:18 PM
To: Richard Kolb II
Cc: Gnhlug Discuss
Subject: CentOS vs Unbuntu desktop

I've tended to use CentOS for the server; at work they want RHEL and support.  With CentOS 5 and 6, I've found the desktop widgets to be lagging.  With Ubuntu (and Mint and other derivatives) there tend to be more desktop tools and they're kept up to date.  Everything is an apt-get install away.

On my desktop, I want to play videos, music, talk to a sound card, graphics card, office suites, IDEs.  I don't need that on my servers and it's ok if things are a bit behind.

I'd check out Mint as an alternative to Ubuntu before going to a CentOS desktop.

On Fri, Sep 9, 2016 at 12:06 PM, Richard Kolb II <richard.k...@gmail.com> wrote:

Not exactly related, but I just switched from windows 7 on my primary machine to Ubuntu 16.x LTS. I found it horribly slow, which surprised me considering it's a faster machine, more ram, and an SSD, over my 14.x LTS machine. I then tried Ubuntu Mate and I may just jump over to Centos.

Maybe I need to poke at what services I have running first.

Richard Kolb II

On Fri, Sep 9, 2016 at 11:44 AM, Tom Buskey <t...@buskey.name> wrote:

I've been working with CentOS 6/7 based Openstack but have some Ubuntu.

FWIW, I prefer the 16.x Ubuntu with SystemD to Upstart.  I've found it easier to learn with CentOS man pages than Ubuntu.

I end up using service and chkconfig to start/stop and enable/disable.

I've found initctl for Upstart vs systemctl for systemd.  

On Thu, Sep 8, 2016 at 9:18 AM, Ken D'Ambrosio <k...@jots.org> wrote:

I believe Ubuntu is perhaps one of the lesser-used distros in GNHLUG
land, but I'm hoping someone here might be able to offer some insight.

I've got an Openstack install on Ubuntu 14.04 host systems, and after a
hurricane-induced power outage over the weekend, one of our hosts won't
boot -- it fails (seemingly) at loading an Openstack Neutron service.
So, I figure I'll go into /etc/init.d/ and just chmod -x all the suspect
services, see if it boots, and then manually load services.  Not so
much; that had zero apparent impact on the services loading.

So then I did some reading up on Upstart, and found a whole bunch of
places that the services *might* be loading from... none of which seemed
to impact stuff.  I currently have the host booted by some serious
cheating (I pulled a disk, went to "manual repair mode" when it whined
about not being able to mount devices, and loaded services from there --
it completely fails to boot single-user), but how in blazes do I:

* See what services want to be loaded?
* See *where* they get loaded?
* Load them individually?

I've found some of the services mentioned in /etc/init/, /etc/init.d/,
/etc/systemd/system/multi-user.target.wants/, /lib/systemd/system/,
/var/lib/systemd/deb-systemd-helper-enabled/ and
/var/lib/systemd/deb-systemd-helper-enabled/multi-user.target.wants/ .
I tried playing around with most (all?) of those locations, to no avail.
  Any insight into what I'm doing wrong would truly be most appreciated.

Thanks!

-Ken
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