On Tue, Feb 22, 2011 at 4:21 PM, Owen Taylor <[email protected]> wrote:
> OK, I promised Jon McCann to write a mail here giving information on my > thoughts on removing the minimize and maximize buttons since I've been > resisting the request of the > Why do people minimize windows? > =============================== > > I think the first thing to realize is that minimization doesn't make sense > if you maximize everything. If you run everything maximized, then it just > doesn't enter in ... switching between > Feedback? > ========= > > If people want to give their thoughts here, that's fine, but I don't think > a mailing list debate is the best way to come to a decision, so the decision > above should be considered basically final for the 3.0 release. > > The real form of feedback that we need going from GNOME 3.0 to 3.2 is > careful observation of how users are using GNOME 3 - are they figuring out > how to use the overview and workspaces and message tray as we expect them to > use them, or are they doing cumbersome workarounds because we took away > essential features. > > Hi Owen, my two cents. I'm still going through the process of seeing how much pain it is for not having minimizing. The first instance of wanting to minimize something is when I have a terminal that is scrolling debug messages and I'm not interested in its contents at the moment. I really want to move it out of my sight. I'm not exactly interested in the window unless something broken has happened. I would probably say the same if I'm on a web browser that is on Pandora or last.fm or some such web page that has dynamic content that I'm not really interested in looking at because I'm using it as a service but it's using real estate that is distracting me. Now, as I understand it the work around would be to move this to another workspace. To do that would require a number of window management steps that I previous accomplished using a single button action. The other option is to use a key combination. Now admittedly, things like scrolling texts in terminals could be argued as expert mode and one could expect that a key combination for those people should be sufficient. But I'm not sure of the pandora or last.fm type thing. Other than that I haven't really felt an urge to minimize anything. sri
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