Gilbert Lawrence
Thu, 28 Oct 2004 22:27:38 -0700
########################################################################## # If Goanet stops reaching you, contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # Want to check the archives? http://www.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ########################################################################## Hi Cornel, Thanks for your thoughtful article. Because you specifically requested my "view on this would be helpful and informative please", I am penning this short response. I am getting ready to leave for Honk Kong for the Pan-Pacific Lung Cancer Conference next week. I am only mentioning this, because any further replies from me will be delayed for three weeks (need time to get caught upon my return) and not from disrespect to you and others participating in this thread. I hope I HAVE NOT given the impression to "accommodate a Hindu belief system with a Catholic belief system". However, I am affirming the continued Goan-Hindu social-cultural practices with the Goan-Catholic social-cultural practices. These practices even confused and frustrated the European padres. (This was another reason for introducing the Inquisition in Goa to keep the native-Catholics 'in line'.) I may be opening a new can of worms!:=)) To my analysis, caste in the Hindu society is a religious AS WELL AS a social problem. Caste among Catholics in the main is a social predicament. This is not aimed to defend caste among Catholics, even as a social hindrance. We need to recognize the benefits of social and economic inter-dependence of segments of society. And as we seek to breakdown past barriers (which ironically helped dependence), we need to substitute serious alternatives for 'association' - beyond music, song, dance and scotch. These arrangements are aimed to include the like-minded. The best example is the Rotarians which were formed for business professionals to connect. While a Moose-Lodge meets the same needs for other pursuit/ economic segment of society. Do you find anything wrong with these groups? These organizations serve the same function and reflect the same human need with evolving times compared to different social groups of the yester-year. There is no room /justification for (LEGAL, RELIGIOUS and SOCIAL ENFORCED) segregation in the modern world! But without associations and network, I am concerned whether people / Goans will flourish as a society; and be successful for long, as individuals. In fact the whole concept of cyber-Goa (and village e-mail lists) is to connect within a limited (well-defined) identity. This by definition excludes others. With a very competitive world (out there!) there is little room for divisions and discord among us/ our community. But this well-defined society (like in the past) needs to understand and accept societal and individual responsibilities. The success of Goan and Indian society of the past was based on these duties and responsibilities which some of the reviewers /analysis (of this thread) have overlooked. Thanks for seeking my views on this topic. Regards, Gilbert Cornel: I am also puzzled that you seem to be prepared to accommodate a Hindu belief system with a Catholic belief system. I know all about syncreticism etc but refuse to accept the wishy washy view that one can be a bit of both. As you will know, this point was emphasised in one or more of Goanet posts and your view on this would be helpful and informative please. Do tell me what you feel about this concern, and also, whether you can see any linkage, whatsoever, between caste oppression in Goa or anywhere else, and oppression through female circumcision. Both have long histories/ justifications, but is there room for either in the modern world?