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Re: JSR 299 (Contexts and Dependency Injection for Java) support?

Ales Justin
Tue, 17 Mar 2009 16:17:53 -0700

This sounds pretty much as a sore looser report.

Looks like you got serious beef with us (RHT):
  - http://code.google.com/p/google-guice/issues/detail?id=288
(care to back up those claims?)

And Bob, thanks for replying to my Guice + MC feedback. ;-)

Bob Lee wrote:
> If 299 looks superficially like Guice, it's because I was heavily 
> involved. I left the EG over a year ago because I disagreed with the 
> leadership and technical direction.
> 
> So far, I haven't bothered to actively oppose 299 for a few reasons:
> 
>   1) 299 doesn't seem to have gained any real traction. Only RedHat is 
> pushing it. You've heard of design by committee? 299 is design by Gavin. :-)
> 
>   2) 299 is part of EE, which we don't use or care much about. I think 
> the risk of 299 imposing itself on SE is zero.
> 
>   3) I choose to spend my time constructively (on the Java language, 
> Guice, JSR 166, Android, etc.), not playing political games.
> 
> My advice to our users is to continue using the Guice API. Your code 
> will be more maintainable as a result. JSR 299 does not represent 
> consensus. It's a land grab by unqualified vendors who would rather 
> prematurely set an unproven design in stone than compete on a level 
> playing field. It's EJB and JSF all over again. By comparison, the Guice 
> API has enjoyed many times the scrutiny by people who actually use and 
> understand this stuff. Guice is simpler, better specified and more 
> future proof as a result.
> 
> In other words, Guice will not directly support 299, but you could 
> easily build a 299 extension for Guice. You'd be better off sticking to 
> the Guice API though.
> 
> Bob
> 
> > 

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