Should one interpret this as GHC now targets 64-bit systems or does one need to employ some sort of clevernesss to use this much memory? (I posted this question a while ago and was told that GHC did not at that time support 64-bit so could not use that much memory)

On a related note, does GHC now distribute IO threads over multiple CPUs or is it still a 1 CPU system?

-Alex-

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On Thu, 15 Sep 2005, Simon Marlow wrote:

On 15 September 2005 01:04, Karl Grapone wrote:

I'm considering using haskell for a system that could, potentially,
need 5GB-10GB of live data.
My intention is to use GHC on Opteron boxes which will give me a max
of 16GB-32GB of real ram.  I gather that GHC is close to being ported
to amd64.

Is it a realistic goal to operate with a heap size this large in GHC?
The great majority of this data will be very long tenured, so I'm
hoping that it'll be possible to configure the GC to not need to much
peak memory during the collection phase.

It'll be a good stress test for the GC, at least.  There are no reasons
in principle why you can't have a heap this big, but major collections
are going to take a long time.  It sounds like in your case most of this
data is effectively static, so in fact a major collection will be of
little use.

Generational collection tries to deal with this in an adaptive way:
long-lived data gets traversed less and less often as the program runs,
as long as you have enough generations.  But if the programmer really
knows that a large chunk of data is going to be live for a long time, it
would be interesting to see whether this information could be fed back
in a way that the GC can take advantage of it.  I'm sure there must be
existing techniques for this sort of thing.

Cheers,
        Simon
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